• absquatulate@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    The irony, I swear

    Edit: To add, we’ve had a similar situation with the romanian diaspora in europe voting mostly for the anti-eu candidate during the presidentials. The mind boggles.

  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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    21 days ago

    Every time I hear something about AfD or one of the other far-right morons I play a game in my head: where did they steal this one from? Which part of MAGA is reflected here? In this case: the Latin Vote. They see how the apparent contradiction can simply be ignored and the same rhetoric applied.

    BTW, my mom is an immigrant in Germany herself (not Turkish though) and happily repeating all of AfD’s anti-immigration talking points.

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      21 days ago

      Or maybe just normal citizens that don’t want illegal immigrant around ? I mean, as far as I know AfD (and every other supposely anti immigration Right wing party) want to not have illegal immigrant, they don’t really care about legal immigrant that follow the local laws and are integrated in the society.

      • germanichwurst@feddit.orgBanned
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        21 days ago

        My wife is a “legal migrant”. That’s bullshit they hate her too. They are making it almost impossible to have papers. The issue with people like you is that they’re too stupid to realize they’re destroying people’s life and that they’re existence is increasing overall human suffering

        Cazzo fascista puta

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          My wife is a “legal migrant”. That’s bullshit they hate her too.

          People tends to note the illegal immigrants that live that live by petty (or big) crimes, not your wife that is a good citizen.
          And it is too easy to associate your wife with the illegals since I suppose your wife will not go around with is passport or any other documents pinned to her back for everyone to read.

          They are making it almost impossible to have papers.

          Oh yes, the concept of consequence.

          The issue with people like you is that they’re too stupid to realize they’re destroying people’s life and that they’re existence is increasing overall human suffering

          Oh well, I maybe am stupid like you say, but I can understand that having an always increasing number of immigrants that are on welfare is not sustainable for any country. Do you want your country (and your life) ruined by illegal immigrants on welfare ? Be my guest but keep the insults for people who do not want it for yourself.

          • germanichwurst@feddit.orgBanned
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            There’s no such thing as IlleGal immigrant, retard. You just want germany for germans. The very concept is the politically correct version of ethnic clainsing, but the idea is still to “remigrate” people you deem unacceptable. Nobody’s fooled. Not even you.

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              No, I want my country for people who respect the laws of my country.
              If they don’t, they can simply go somewhere else if they are not Italians or go to jail if they are Italians.

              but the idea is still to “remigrate” people you deem unacceptable.

              What a monster I am to want to “remigrate” people who arrive here, live by petty crimes, don’t want to be part of the society and pretend to impose their laws to the country hosting them.

              Let my ask you one thing: would do like it if I would come to your home, trash it and impose my rules to you in your own home ?

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                20 days ago

                I always love that ‘home’ metaphor, so let’s roll with it.

                So, suppose somebody is coming into my home and starts shitting in the living room. I do not like that.

                But, here’s the thing: I feel morally obliged to let him shit in my living room and spend resources to better that person, when he’s gonna be lynched by an angry mob on the outside as an alternative.

                That is the moral question that determines what kind of human being one is: do you help people that are in danger, even if they stink, shit in your living room or otherwise inconvenience you? I hope for sure I am the person who helps.

                And, to be honest, it is also not that strange, that he starts shitting in my living room, when I deny him access to the toilet the second he enters my home ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                  I always love that ‘home’ metaphor, so let’s roll with it.

                  So, suppose somebody is coming into my home and starts shitting in the living room. I do not like that.

                  But, here’s the thing: I feel morally obliged to let him shit in my living room and spend resources to better that person, when he’s gonna be lynched by an angry mob on the outside as an alternative.

                  Admirable, but I not feel compelled to help someone who disperespect the place offering him hospitality in the moment he enter. I mean, maybe, the first time, but after that one there is no way I will accept him shitting around again.

                  That is the moral question that determines what kind of human being one is: do you help people that are in danger, even if they stink, shit in your living room or otherwise inconvenience you? I hope for sure I am the person who helps.

                  In a way yes, you are helping. In another way you simply convice people that they can do whatever they want in your house. Up to you if it is ok with you, but I would like to put boundaries: I will help you but you need to be civil and help yourself to be better.

                  And, to be honest, it is also not that strange, that he starts shitting in my living room, when I deny him access to the toilet the second he enters my home ¯_(ツ)_/¯

                  It would be more something like “look, the next door is a public restroom, use it”.

              • germanichwurst@feddit.orgBanned
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                A country isn’t a home you dumbass nazi.

                “Don’t want to be part of society” they took 1 years to refuse my wife visa, idiot. It’s society and scum like yourself who rejects them, not the other way around.

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                  A country isn’t a home you dumbass nazi.

                  Oh yes, I now understand the type of person you are.
                  You are the kind of person who think that once him and is house are ok, then everything else can crumble and it is not his problem, like he is not part of the society he lives in.
                  Well, bad news for you: keep thinking like this and you and your contry will end like many places in southern Italy where they have beautifull homes (inside) that are in ruin on the outside because who care to maintain what is not mine and, for example, in the summer they have not water because “hey it is not my fucking problem that the guys who need to maintain the water system do their work”.

                  “Don’t want to be part of society” they took 1 years to refuse my wife visa, idiot. It’s society and scum like yourself who rejects them, not the other way around.

                  You can always choose to go where they don’t care about laws… after all “a country is not a home”, correct ?

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              20 days ago

              Ok, how do you suppose to create all these jobs ?

              • germanichwurst@feddit.orgBanned
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                The usual way dumbass. Immigrants are also workers and consumers. They create more jobs than your crony nazi politicians

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                  20 days ago

                  The usual way dumbass.

                  That is, Nobel Prize winner ?

                  BTW, typical response from someone who suggests something without any fucking idea of how to do it.

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        21 days ago

        Well, you don’t really know much then. The AfD is having serious internal talks about kicking out people with a German passport, simply for being gay/trans/wrong shade of white/random bullshit reason. They are fascists, for real…

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          Which will be shot down as soon as they will try it, if your legal system is decent as I think it is and you were able to solve the problems that increase their popularity.

          They are fascists, for real…

          Yes, but their growth is a consequence, not the cause.

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        Romania & Bulgaria are EU members. Their citizens can go whenever the fuck they want within the 27 member-states. Unlike Turkish, & especially the parents of these AfD members, who probably came to Germany undocumented…

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    Newer migration competes with established communities for low skill labour, puts pressure on unskilled labour wages, increases conpetition for affordable housing and tipically increases criminality in neighbourhoods typically inhabited by low income families. Maybe, instead of the entire thread dunking on the Turks like fucking racists that you are, people can stop for a minute and ask why are these communities reacting like this. Migration is a serious issue and has toppled many a leader when brought to the fore as a political talking point. Maybe drop the dogmas and look at the data! It’s always the poorer that feel the pressure just so privileged Hans can afford a housekeeper and a gardner with his Beamte wage!

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    That’s what happens when you abolish the stasi. Not even 3 decades later they’re back to the third Reich

    Germans can’t be trusted