• gian
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    1 day ago

    My wife is a “legal migrant”. That’s bullshit they hate her too.

    People tends to note the illegal immigrants that live that live by petty (or big) crimes, not your wife that is a good citizen.
    And it is too easy to associate your wife with the illegals since I suppose your wife will not go around with is passport or any other documents pinned to her back for everyone to read.

    They are making it almost impossible to have papers.

    Oh yes, the concept of consequence.

    The issue with people like you is that they’re too stupid to realize they’re destroying people’s life and that they’re existence is increasing overall human suffering

    Oh well, I maybe am stupid like you say, but I can understand that having an always increasing number of immigrants that are on welfare is not sustainable for any country. Do you want your country (and your life) ruined by illegal immigrants on welfare ? Be my guest but keep the insults for people who do not want it for yourself.

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        7 hours ago

        Ok, how do you suppose to create all these jobs ?

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          7 hours ago

          The usual way dumbass. Immigrants are also workers and consumers. They create more jobs than your crony nazi politicians

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            6 hours ago

            The usual way dumbass.

            That is, Nobel Prize winner ?

            BTW, typical response from someone who suggests something without any fucking idea of how to do it.

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              3 hours ago

              Public investment. I mean you’re a retard who think immigrants steal jobs. Guess what, idiot, an immigrant with a job will re-inject the money in the real economy, unlike the crony politicians and rich people you’re simping for

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                44 minutes ago

                Public investment.

                Oh yes, the magic word that in your idea solve everything. And how exactly do you plan to fund them ? Taxing the people who cannot move out of the contry/city/whatever ?
                But yes, public investments can create a number of new jobs, but they cannot keep doing it forever. You need a better plan.

                I mean you’re a retard who think immigrants steal jobs.

                To a certain degree yes, because I saw it happen, especially in situations where unscrupulous people can pay in illegal immigrant paid under the table.
                Is it wrong ? Absolutely, but it is not that calling me a retard for saying it will solve the problem.

                Guess what, idiot, an immigrant with a job will re-inject the money in the real economy, unlike the crony politicians and rich people you’re simping for

                That is what you like to think.
                Every immigrants I know say that they are sending money home. True, they spend something in the real economy, they need to live after all. And that are immigrants that live and work here for 20/30 years, with all the permits and so on. I would imagine that an illegal immigrant paid under the table would do the same thing.
                BTW, the explanation given by them is that with the amount of money they send home, they will live way better than here when they will retire.

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      20 hours ago

      There’s no such thing as IlleGal immigrant, retard. You just want germany for germans. The very concept is the politically correct version of ethnic clainsing, but the idea is still to “remigrate” people you deem unacceptable. Nobody’s fooled. Not even you.

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        7 hours ago

        No, I want my country for people who respect the laws of my country.
        If they don’t, they can simply go somewhere else if they are not Italians or go to jail if they are Italians.

        but the idea is still to “remigrate” people you deem unacceptable.

        What a monster I am to want to “remigrate” people who arrive here, live by petty crimes, don’t want to be part of the society and pretend to impose their laws to the country hosting them.

        Let my ask you one thing: would do like it if I would come to your home, trash it and impose my rules to you in your own home ?

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          I always love that ‘home’ metaphor, so let’s roll with it.

          So, suppose somebody is coming into my home and starts shitting in the living room. I do not like that.

          But, here’s the thing: I feel morally obliged to let him shit in my living room and spend resources to better that person, when he’s gonna be lynched by an angry mob on the outside as an alternative.

          That is the moral question that determines what kind of human being one is: do you help people that are in danger, even if they stink, shit in your living room or otherwise inconvenience you? I hope for sure I am the person who helps.

          And, to be honest, it is also not that strange, that he starts shitting in my living room, when I deny him access to the toilet the second he enters my home ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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            I always love that ‘home’ metaphor, so let’s roll with it.

            So, suppose somebody is coming into my home and starts shitting in the living room. I do not like that.

            But, here’s the thing: I feel morally obliged to let him shit in my living room and spend resources to better that person, when he’s gonna be lynched by an angry mob on the outside as an alternative.

            Admirable, but I not feel compelled to help someone who disperespect the place offering him hospitality in the moment he enter. I mean, maybe, the first time, but after that one there is no way I will accept him shitting around again.

            That is the moral question that determines what kind of human being one is: do you help people that are in danger, even if they stink, shit in your living room or otherwise inconvenience you? I hope for sure I am the person who helps.

            In a way yes, you are helping. In another way you simply convice people that they can do whatever they want in your house. Up to you if it is ok with you, but I would like to put boundaries: I will help you but you need to be civil and help yourself to be better.

            And, to be honest, it is also not that strange, that he starts shitting in my living room, when I deny him access to the toilet the second he enters my home ¯_(ツ)_/¯

            It would be more something like “look, the next door is a public restroom, use it”.

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          7 hours ago

          A country isn’t a home you dumbass nazi.

          “Don’t want to be part of society” they took 1 years to refuse my wife visa, idiot. It’s society and scum like yourself who rejects them, not the other way around.

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            6 hours ago

            A country isn’t a home you dumbass nazi.

            Oh yes, I now understand the type of person you are.
            You are the kind of person who think that once him and is house are ok, then everything else can crumble and it is not his problem, like he is not part of the society he lives in.
            Well, bad news for you: keep thinking like this and you and your contry will end like many places in southern Italy where they have beautifull homes (inside) that are in ruin on the outside because who care to maintain what is not mine and, for example, in the summer they have not water because “hey it is not my fucking problem that the guys who need to maintain the water system do their work”.

            “Don’t want to be part of society” they took 1 years to refuse my wife visa, idiot. It’s society and scum like yourself who rejects them, not the other way around.

            You can always choose to go where they don’t care about laws… after all “a country is not a home”, correct ?