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  • I simply do not believe that refugees or illegal migration are among Germany’s most pressing problems. Nevertheless, this issue dominates the public debate – and in a way that is in fact very harmful. This was already the case in the last federal election and, unfortunately, continues to be the case.

    Probably not, but still is a problem.

    All this plays into the hands of the right wing, as they construct their usual threat scenarios, which are not only completely exaggerated, but also absolutely counterproductive, because they deliberately ignore essential aspects such as demographic change and the (in parts associated) shortage of skilled workers. Instead, they rail against foreigners with populist slogans such as “German culture is threatened by immigration,” “foreigners are taking jobs away from Germans,” and all that nonsense.

    True and they can exactly because the left wing is not willing to tackle the problem. Let’s be real, AfD would never have been at this level if the other parties would have done their job.

    The far-right AfD, which, together with large sections of the conservative camp, is responsible for making the issue of migration so prominent, is not interested in focusing on these much more important issues at all. The reason is simple: The AfD is a neoliberal party that pursues the interests of the upper class (even worse than CDU/CSU).

    True. The point is that they are able to do it because the issue exist and nobody else care to speak about it, let alone to tackle it.
    It is too easy to point at the hundreds or thousands of illegal immigrants that are around the street and say “see, they are the problem with their petty crimes”. People will agree because they know it is true to some extend.

    If we don’t manage to finally reestablish a meaningful political discourse that addresses the country’s real problems instead of fueling blind hatred, we will end up just like the Americans – with an autocratic regime that is utterly incompetent and corrupt beyond belief, yet at the same time ruthless enough to terrorize its own citizens. We already had such a regime in Germany: namely, the Nazis in the Third Reich.

    Yep, and as far as I remember Hitler was elected before going crazy. Now, obviously the scenarios are really different but the one common thing they have is that there is someone willing to talk to people about the problem they have (or think to have) and promise to solve them. And thinking that to resolve the problem all you need to do is to neutralize AfD will only end with AfD 2.0 with an even worse program but since it will have a more presentable way, it will be accepted.

    So in short, I consider the completely overrepresented debate on migration to be essentially a diversionary tactic. The aim is to obscure the real reasons for Germany’s economic decline and the falling standard of living – foreigners in Germany have nothing to do with either of these issues, but that is what the right wing wants citizens to believe. Legal foreigners have nothing to do with these issues, illegal foreigners are part of the issues, they are a cost both economically and socially.
    Economically because you spend money on them in the form of some sort of welfare or aids, socially because it is a problem if the streets are no more secure because them (which obvously do non exclude the fact that they are not the only ones committing crimes).

    As I said, you only have to look at the US to see where this leads – a look at Germany’s history would also confirm this, but unfortunately many of my compatriots seem to want to deliberately ignore the horrors of Nazi rule so that they can have a scapegoat for all their problems: foreigners.

    I don’t think you can have a parallel, in the US Trump won because the Democrats decided that in the end standing by a convicted felon (Floyd was not an innocent black guy killed by a racist police officer) and allowing petty crimes (and not only them, they decriminalized many things), on top of choosing as candidate Kamala Harris because she is a black woman, who in the primary elections of her own party got less than 1000 votes, was a good strategy. And with all the woke ideology and BLM charade it was simple for him to win.

    If AfD (or any other party) would try something like that would be destroyed, nobody really like it.


  • The cause for more fascist is that overall for more people it is worse… Why is it worse? Cost of living is up, no one can buy a house, press is telling that its the fault of Immigrants or the people that cant work… meanwhile it is because of the few rich that hoard everything.

    Or, maybe, the parties in power do not understand anymore what people need/want.

    Just an example, last week in Italy we had a strike, organized by the Left wing parties and the biggest labor unions, against the war in Palestine. Now, for how bad the situation in Palestine can be, do you really think that a family in Italy that are living on the edge of poverty because of the low salary and few jobs (which lower the salary because there is always someone who are willing to work for less if the alternative is no job and eventually you can pay under the table an illegal immigrant) with the problem of putting 3 meals a day on the table for his children really care about it ?

    It is true that more people vote for Right and fascist and that happen because it is worse for more people and the point is that all the other parties do not understand it and they continue to do the same things that make it worse for more people.

    It is not a coincidence that AfD begin to grow after the illegal immigrant became too much. It is not a coincidence that Fratelli D’Italia won the elections after the PD+M5S focused only on the illegal immigrant and other questions concerning a very little number of people.


  • Can someone help me get my head around Europe’s fear of Russia? I’ve commented, many times, that the EU needs to get off their ass and take their neighbor seriously, but why are so many military and political leaders expecting an all out war?

    Probably because they know that a war (big or small that it is) is the only way for Putin to stay in power. And Russia already shown that every treaty they sign is worth less than the paper used to write it.


  • People that vote for a Party like afd are nazi friends.

    Maybe, maybe not. What you are missing is that AfD is not a cause but a consequence.
    I have no doubt that in Germany there still is a certain number of nazis, like we have in Italy. But guess what ? Up until some years ago they where nowhere near to be considered nothing more than a small group with radical ideas (than, to be honest, you have also on the left a small group with radical ideas, so…).

    Since their (AfD) ideas are the same, the fact that now they get way more votes only means that way more people started voting for them (like it happened with Fratelli D’Italia in Italy) and since I don’t belive that people become nazi overnight the only explanation is that evidentely people are getting tired of the other political parties, for whatever reason. If I should look at what happen in Italy, the reason is because now the Left wings does not care about common people problems.

    The assumption that people is nazi but somehow did not vote for a nazi party is stupid, Afd existed way before getting so many votes, so what changed to make people vote for a nazi party after years that the same people voted for non nazi parties ? Find the answer to this question and you will find the cause for AfD growth.

    And of you are friends with a nazi you are a nazi…

    And if you are friends with a gay you are gay, works better that way ?

    Many are not allowed to work because it is not sure where they are from, because they can not proof they have what is needed for the job etc… And instead of trying to let them take Tests sothey can proof they can work they are not allowed. Sure there are some that dont want to work or cant but that wont be the majority…

    I agree, that is a problem, but it is a problem to know where they are from or what skill they have if they came here without any document (not even the ID) and try to flee the moment they touch the land (look what happen when immigrants disembark in the Southern Italy).
    Trying to have them to take tests to verify how skilled they are has as prerequisite that they want to take the test. The 6500 Syrian doctors wanted to part of the society. And parties like AfD will be still what they were for years (little groups with radical ideas and no real power or voice) if the only immigrant are the doctors and highly skilled worker that contribute to the society because people would not see them as a problem.
    The common people do not see as a problem the Syrian doctor (or nurse or highly skilled worker), but the Syrian that live by petty crimes or pretend to live on welfare.

    Its the same as people believe that the “bürgergeld Empfänger” are a bigger problem than the ultra rich few that dont pay taxes %wise to their wealth

    That the ultra rich should need to pay their fair share of taxes is obvious. It can be simply done closing all the loophole they use (but strangely no one want to do it).
    But the assumption that if the few ultra rich pay their fair share of taxes than evertything will be solved is beyond stupid.


  • Another fact is demographic change, which makes it perfectly clear that Germany will be even more dependent on foreign workers in the future.

    I am not sure about this.

    Nevertheless, our conservative parties (and the far-right parties anyway) are conducting the migration debate as if there were too many foreigners in Germany. This is extremely counterproductive, because the focus should actually be on how to make it easier to recognize foreign professional qualifications, how to ensure that people are properly trained, and so on and so forth.

    Which is the starting point. I mean, I agree that part of the debate is about how many foreigners a Germany can absorb annualy. Debating about qualifications did not exclude debating about how many foreigners you want/can accept. And I agree that if you only debate about only one side you go nowhere and populism explode.

    And as for your spurious argument about Merkel: more than 6,500 Syrians work as doctors in Germany, representing a considerable proportion of the medical profession – most of these people came to Germany as asylum seekers and all are making an important contribution to society here. The goddamn Nazis, who think they are better just because they have German citizenship, generally make no contribution to society at all – on the contrary, they are destroying our society with their hateful, stupid bullshit.

    True, and how many Syrians are on welfare ? Because that is the point. It is not important how many Syrian doctors you have if you have 100x Syrians leaving on welfare and that don’t want to contribute but only ask.
    And like in Italy (and I suppose everywhere ) people will see the 100x Syrians on welfare and not the 6500 doctors working. And that is what is exploited by what you call Nazis (like if people become Nazi overnight).




  • Well, such measures are necessary when, instead of treating urgently needed foreign workers with respect, you prefer to resort to racism.

    Wait, we are talking of the same nation that with Merkel accepted millions of immigrants ?

    Once again, this is proof of the consequences of the inhumane rhetoric of the CDU, CSU, and AfD: it is completely understandable that no one wants to work in a country where they are treated with hostility.

    Mmmm… One should ask why they are treated with hostility, if that is true.

    But no, the German Government just carries on with their despicable racism and pretends that one of the most important aspects of the migration debate is not that numerous industries urgently need workers from abroad.

    The same industries that are laying off worker because they are downsizing, since they are stagnant on their success for years and now they are left behind ? (for reference, the car industry).
    Or we are talking of the same industries that relocated the production to cheaper nations, lose all the local expertise and now discover that if a job is not required in the country, people will not train themself for it ?

    Since the shortage of skilled workers cannot, of course, be covered by idiotic Nazis, pensioners are now supposed to step in. It’s really unbelievable.

    The shortage of skilled people also cannot be covered by immigrants in the moment they arrive, they need to be trained (maybe for years) , you need to have the time to let them to make a working experience and only then you have a skilled worker.

    The thruth is that if you want to welcome immigrants, you need to plan it, you cannot just let them in and then hope that everything work out just fine.






  • It would be interesting to know how many resources this growth has taken from others places…

    As for now it don’t seems that AI has generated a profit for the companies that bring it to the market and it seems it will not do it even in the near future, so I assume the question is: how many years can your economy be sustained by a sector that is not generating any revenue and is absorbing a monstrous amount of resources ?

    We are not talking about a single company (like Amazon back at the time), do you really think that even when Ai will start (if ever) to generate profits these will be able to repay all the investements done today ?