who the fuck think it’s a good idea to push bios update via windows update?, it can’t even get video driver update right. Before you flaming me for using microslop windows this is my brother laptop not mine
I don’t think I had a linux distro break audio/video/network after an update in 10+ years. Maybe I’ve just been lucky? That said I’ve had countless issues with work machines after Microsoft updates
It semi reliably kills pipewire and some sometimes USB drives won’t mount after a kernel update if I don’t restart.
Hasn’t happened in a little while though
unless you a running a livepatch setup, you should always reboot after a kernel update.
or an nvidia driver update, but that’s an exception.
I’m not I just run 128 GB RAM in 4 dimms on Ryzen7000 which is tricky to get running at a reasonable speed and doesn’t always restart right so I’m reticent to restart
that sounds like a drag. have you tried a firmware update?
those usually help with getting ram to play nice.
Yeah. The memory controllers in the DDR5 ryzens just can’t handle 4 sticks of 32. The recommendation is 2 x 48gb but with RAM prices the way they are I’m probably going to stick with the 4 32s since that is what I have.
if you’re on arch, where i know the usb thing happens out of the box, there’s a pacman hook you can install to fix it. i can’t remember what its called but you should be able to fix it
I’m on an arch derivative (endeavouros).
Thanks I’ll take a look around. It seems to happen just infrequently enough that I’ve never gone out of my way to fix it.
The pipewire thing just needs a restart of pipewire which isn’t a huge problem.
I feel like “everything breaks on linux” was created by Microsoft to sell windows lol
I kind of think it’s just reputational hangover. Everyone remembers how bad Windows Vista was because Windows XP had been so great, however Microsoft came along with Windows 7 and improved the windows reputation. In the Linux world people aren’t really doing big promos which garner a lot of media attention regarding new kernel versions or new DE’s. Ubuntu is really the closest this ever comes but I’m sure if there was someone being a bit more like “Arch 2028! Our most stable version yet!” and hyped it all up and did a bunch of promos the reputation would shift more.
The worst part about Windows Update is when it functions as intended. They’re going to re-install Edge, turn OneDrive back on, and shove Copilot into Explorer, Notepad, and Paint.
This is all for your security.
It’s also happening in Linux through fwupd.
In fairness, you have to specifically run that, so you know you are doing a firmware update and that you should be careful.
Is mainstream distros shipped it by default? cuz I never heard or have it installed
ubuntu ships it by default iirc. it’s pretty mainstream alright.
Fedora also does iirc? I remember seeing “firmware update” on gnome software
It does, but anecdotally it doesn’t seem super reliable. Did a full system update without knowing it was a thing and only found out when it went into BIOS and immediately said “update failed”. Luckily seemed like just a checksum or some other sanity check failing, but I’m guessing I got the wrong binary for my hardware.
Damn
Dell thinks it’s ok. Ultimately they are the ones who decides what OE-specific software gets pushed via Windows Update.
Yeah fuck them both then, dell think it’s a good idea and microslop also think it’s a good and allowed dell to do it
It is a good idea. Firmware updates can improve stability and performance. Just because it failed this time doesnt mean that all the other times it silently worked were also bad ideas.
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On Linux it’s usually just your desktop environment that gets wiped somehow. But if you know how to fix it, then it’s alright. Very annoying though.
Wiped? What are you talking about? Could you explain what you’re experiencing and on which distro
Multiple Debian based distros. You do an update, reboot, and your screen is black untill you press alt + f2 and then login and sudo apt install [desktop-environment]
Interesting. I’ve never had that.
I’ve never had this happen and never heard of this happening.
I’m living on the edge with Archlinux[1] and use the AUR. Updating daily. I’m living every day as if it was my last on earth.
[1] Archlinux=EndeavourOS
