• zeppo@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    It’s a native feature of the device that allows its user to get enormous amounts of attention, in real life and subsequently online, by simply wearing it in public.

    Sounds horrible. I guess I’m not someone who seeks attention at any cost like some people, it public is the last situation I’d use this thing in. I would feel like a complete dumbass wearing it at a coffee shop and waving my hands around.

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      2 years ago

      It’s the same problem google glass had. It can be the most information rich and user friendly device in the world but if you look like a dingus wearing it, it will never catch on.

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        That’s what I thought about the elephant tusk looking AirPods yet here we are.

        The Reality Distortion Field sometimes makes things hard to predict when it comes to Apple products.

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          1 year ago

          People on here are wired.

          Air pods just look like regular apple headphones just without wires.

          They sure as shit look less goofy than my huge pixel buds that stuck an inch out of my ear.

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          I’m kind of surprised people felt that way about AirPods. I don’t remember that at the time. They seem quite mild to me at this point - people didn’t mind wearing regular earbuds around, why worry if there’s a cord or not?

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          Then if you wear it you’ll be an even bigger dingus and make other dinguses look less dingusy. It would kinda be a public service of sorts I guess.

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      Yeah, last thing I want is more attention while wearing those things and the chance that people will be able to hear the audio from the pr0n I’d be watching on it.

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    2 years ago

    They bought themselves into a beta test/focus group. Apple still doesn’t know what this will be. It might be a Newton MessagePad. Or it might be the iPhone.

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      Apple is great at polishing and packaging things that already exist. The iPhone was a better Blackberry, the iPod a better MP3 player, the iMac a better all-in-one PC… I have a hard time thinking of stuff they truly pioneered. The Newton maybe? That did not end well for them.

      If I had to bet, the Vision Pro will turn out to be a burnt pancake, but long term I have no doubt that something like it — something that augments reality one way or another — will become a thing. And in the meantime Apple has pockets more than deep enough to survive a failed Vision Pro.

      The backlash against them trying to innovate is kind of dumb though. They aimed high for a change, and taking risks like this should be lauded not laughed at.

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        The problem is they didn’t aim high enough. AR/VR lives or dies on software. And for what they launched, it barely has the OS, and apparently that thing, although very polished UX wise, on security it’s a swiss cheese. And few people has the pockets to develop apps for it.

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      There was quite a different reaction to the iPhone when it launched, so I’m pretty confident it’s not the latter.

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    Do we really want to live in a world where people are walking around with these things on their face, gesturing around like they are insane?

    It’s bad enough to witness how awful public spaces have become since smartphones came out, but this is next level zombie.

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      It is inevitable to a degree. Obviously this is not the final form and I’m sure the goal is to make a more fashionable solution that fits into their phone/watch/airpods kind of edc strategy. But no doubt we’ll have a future where info is right there if we want it. This thing is the foray into developing that eventual product for Apple. To me it looks real dumb, but a sleeker version in the future that looks like glasses…well shit it might be nice to watch a show while washing dishes idk.

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        But no doubt we’ll have a future where info is right there if we want it.

        But we’re already there. It’s called a smartphone.

        The value add of replacing a pocket watch or a cellphone with a device about the same size that also fits in your pocket but also gives you access to all the world’s information in seconds is immense. And that’s why the smartphone revolutionized the world.

        The value add of having that information strapped to your face at all times is… just not worth the physical discomfort of having said device strapped to your face.

        I say this as a VR user. A device strapped over your face really sucks and you can’t wait to take it off. The only reason to tolerate it is that that’s the only way to trick your senses into thinking you are somewhere else.

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          1 year ago

          It would be ar glasses I’d think, not a headset with a strap. At least that would be my guess as to the end state.

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        Yea, while it’s way out of my price range and looks a little goofy, this is exactly what I’ve been hoping for as the next step to VR. AR (or whatever Apple wants to call it) is super fascinating, and will be pretty much the main reason for me to get a headset in the first place.

        While it may have issues, I’m really excited to see how the market reacts to it, hopefully occulus or another company will try and compete. Feels weird to say, but I’m hoping Apple finds success with it

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      Sliders on Peacock Season 4 Episode 4, “Virtual Slide”. Worth watching as this episode from 1998 realistically conveys the dystopian potential of VR/AR headsets. The headsets are centrally controlled and wirelessly networked. Topics covered include privacy violations, IP theft, manipulation of reality, social decay, virtual image and body autonomy, nested reality. It’s only taken 26 years to create a convincing reality that allows someone to wear the headset publicly with minimal problems. The fact that Apple hit the target on a 1.0 product is actually frightening. What will another 30 years of development bring?

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      Do we really want to live in a world where people are walking around with these things on their face, gesturing around like they are insane?

      You’ve seen someone talk on radio earbuds when the phone’s in their pocket? It’s the second most creepy thing I’ve ever seen with a phone conversation.

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        I’ve had people looking at me while they are talking to people on concealed earbuds. It’s embarrassing if you respond to them as if they were actually talking to you. But how would you know who the hell they are talking to? 🤷‍♂️

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      I’m old enough to remember the advent of two of the most annoying pieces of electronics ever…

      1. The Bluetooth earpiece - which made everyone having a conversation look like they were either talking to themselves or possibly schizophrenic.

      2. Those god-awful push to talk walkie talkie type phones from mainly Nextel - which not only made you privy to the both parties conversation but had the freaking awfully loud and obnoxious beep in between switching parties talking. I wanted to strangle anyone using one in a restaurant.

      I’m not sure that as a species we are capable of being present in the moment and not searching for that next hit of dopamine from a device with a screen. And Lord knows I’m as guilty as the next person.

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      I would love to walk around with a video playing in a fixed hud while I go around doing chores. I’m constantly finding places to put my phone down every time I move to another station.

      I’m not paying $3500 for that, though.

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        That was the idea of Google glasses but it was too early and tech wasn’t ready. It was gonna give you just enough useful info and get out of the way.

        Plus Google haters made “glass-holes” viral.

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          I’m not sure whether it would work better today.

          What seems odd about the glasses is that they’re essentially bodycams, but just unobtrusive enough not to be identified as such from a distance.

          Someone walking around with an AR headset makes it very clear they’re wearing a tech device, someone holding up a phone in front of them signals “I might be filming”, but someone wearing slightly unusual glasses won’t catch any attention. And that seems very weird to a lot of people.

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      It’s not even AR… Didn’t they back down from that? Isn’t it mixed reality or something?

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      I hate Hate HATE that I’m going to say this: the iPad was just a bigger iPhone, yet here we are. It’s the perfect device for consumption and light work, yet people had no idea about what to do with it at first.

      I’m more irked about that thing being gigantic and strapped to your face, thought. It’s the next level of social isolation, in a level even higher that the one cause by smartphones, and I’m not ok with that. Companies actually want to hijack and sell your reality back to you.

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        I’m with you. AR and VR has potential, absolutely, but companies are not our friends and they’ll find ways to exploit these things to the detriment of us. They always do.

        We all know that these companies aren’t above lying straight to our faces. They’re even undermining the concept of ownership so they can milk us even further.

        It’s sad, but I don’t see a reality where this kind of tech being closed off and proprietary will ever end well.

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        I think part of the “what do I do with this” factor for the iPad was that Apple (and other companies still to this day) were so hell bent on making everything smaller and more compact that releasing a larger product was marketing whiplash. Not to mention that smartphones were being pitched as this “do everything device” so why would you need anything else?

        After you get over that marketing sugarcoating, it becomes pretty obvious what you’d use an iPad for. Internet and media consumption at a larger scale than your phone, easier on your eyes than a phone, but retains at least some of the lightweight smaller form factor that separates it from a regular laptop. Sure you didn’t have the stick it in your pocket advantage of a phone or the full keyboard and computational power of a laptop, but there was this in-between that for a modest fee, you could have the conveniences if you can live with/ignore the sacrifices.

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    The people who buy something like this (hopefully) have enough money where $3,500 doesn’t matter or are developers who want to get in early on something that might be big in a few versions.

    Everyone else should avoid.

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      These are the early adopters phase. This always happens with high-end tech. I’m not sure how advanced this set is compared to the competition in order to justify that price.

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    A 4K USD electronic device that’s what they bought…if they needed its features not sure but… that’s what they bought.

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    Yeah, but they have it, and in the end, isn’t that what matters?? /s

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      I still have my old dev version of the Oculus. It came with fancy changeable lenses lol. I don’t regret that one at all and now it kinda feels like a little piece of history

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    Never seen anyone wearing them or promoting/showing it off

    I’ve seen a few people making fun of it, and that’s the only reason I know it exists