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- technology@lemmy.world
YouTube warns it might make your viewing experience worse if you don’t turn off your ad-blocker::YouTube has been cracking down on people using ad blockers. Now, a spokesperson says that using ad blockers could lead to “suboptimal viewing.”
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Worse than using YouTube without an ad blocker?
The fact that my children know the Liberty Mutual jingle from watching YouTube at school says no.
Oh no, so how will I be able to tell a difference?
How could it be worse than with ads?
Loving Freetube, Newpipe, and Grayjay more and more every day!
Tried to dive into Piped recently, but nothing would load.
I’m only surface-level competent with computers though, so I probably fucked something up… since you’ve poked around multiple options, which one(s) do you recommend as the most idiot proof?
For android, the stock newpipe from the fdroid repositories was just download and play for me. Easy and simple interface.
For Grayjay, I use the direct download .apk from their website. It’s been a little more buggy because it’s still new, but all in all quite stable. Less features right now, but does all the basics and has device casting to TV which Newpipe doesn’t.
For my PC, Freetube. I just use the Flatpak version for Linux. I’m on Nobara for my distro currently and it’s worked fine.
Can’t make it worse of you don’t use it.
Youtube is past the growth phase, at this point it’s about minimising cost and maximising revenue.
If you regularly use it with adblock but decide to stop using it because of this, then youtube would have succeeded. You weren’t making them money and were costing them bandwidth, so good riddance.
If you really want to stick it to them, turn on adblock, find some long videos and play them on mute in the background at 4K/1080p60 resolution. Cost them even more bandwidth.
Even better, start randomly disliking videos or making nonsensical comments (not hateful or toxic ones, just comments that don’t make sense). Enshittify it further.
It’s not the ads. They want your data and these adblockers prevent them from doing it. Google had and continue to lie to advertisers about their ad views anyways. Simply use Firefox + adblockers or go to alternative sites that are springing up.
Turning off your ad-blocker is like running in jail, naked. So no thanks, YT.
Both Firefox + uBlock Origin saved me countless times from malicious ads since years. You should do it too.
I think my viewing experience will be even worse if I turn off my ad blocker.
YouTube is just messing around. They could encode ads randomly on videos if they wanted to, like podcasts.
There’s already a sponsor blocker extension that skips when a sponsor is even mentioned, it would be trivial to add other embedded ads to it.
They would just be able to create and stream 2 or more ad-encoded versions where ads are encoded in differently positions. Then no sponsorblock could save us since it would skip the wrong segments for some people…
Ad blocking, uh, finds a way.
They could, what can go wrong…
Ive had my ad blocker turned off for a week on Youtube. Theres a preroll ad on every video and a shitload of ad break mid video and at the last 3 seconds of a video.
Its the worst viewing experience I can imagine. I cut out Twitch and even stopped all my subs when they went mandatory ad viewing. Im full on ready for third party options in the same spirit as Lemmy.
I also think they are fucking with the sound levels in the same way TV did prior to the FTC ruling. The commercials are awfully loud compared to the content.
I just thought I would log in to Twitch just to say hi to the streamer I was in the same game with. Twitch loads, starts to play the stream with no problem. BUT when I try to login, it says Firefox is not a supported browser. It had no problem playing all the content, showing the chat, etc. - but for some reason it still says my browser is not supported and I can’t log in. I looked it up. FF is “not supported” because it has an enhanced tracking protection feature. Twitch wants to track you, and it can’t if you use Firefox. Such a petty way; this will just turn me away from Twitch even more.
SmartTube Next for watching YT on TV and LibreTube for Android.
S0undTV is a good app for Twitch if you have an android TV device. No ads and support for the emotes if you like having the chat up. You’ve got to login to twitch through the app though to start watching. It’s broken before and had ads play, but gets fixed within a few days. Lastly there is a delay compared to desktop. If that’ll be a deal breaker.
How can they make the experience worse for people using adblock if they cant even detect it
If they can detect adblockers, why not just block everyone using one like they were doing previously?
I wonder if it’s a switch in strategy, i.e. The ad block ban popup gives clear notification to the user to update their adblock but slowing the video load speeds without giving feedback might be a more effective in slowing the arms race.
PeerTube & Odysee when?
When the video creators you watch move to them.
Oh no. God forbid you pay. Gimme free video now. It’s mine!
Don’t be daft. Youtube gets to steal user data which is more valuable.
Things were better without blood sucking greed of the world.
Have a modicum of restraint and stop using the service then. 🤷♂️
Y’all have massive entitlement complexes.
I am certain i am no more entitled than the already-billionaires salivating at the ad infested internet.
You are incorrect.
Source: your ass.
Source: Your own words aKtually
I would gladly pay for it. BUT
- it is owned by google
- monopoly (i am waiting when will they announce a new tier of subscription with limited ads, and increase the price of the current model)
- i wouldnt pay for extra features, i would only pay for not making my experience worse, and this is probably the biggest reason for me.
Classic. I’m not going to buy it because they might change the model later.
This entire thread is entitlement. Stop using it if it’s so bad.
It is not ‘might’. We know they will do something like that.
Before AI went viral, how much did Giogle search improve, Youtube at all? Not at all really, but they cranked up the adverts. So now i am paying for Kagi search, I also sponsor open source projects so dont tell me that I am entitled. Youtube is the last Google product that cannot be replaced as of right now.
At the end of the day all i want is to be a customer, not a product.
I see we have a soothsayer in the comment section!
Youtube has every right not to serve me the video.
It does not have the right to interfere with what I do with it after the data reaches my machine, though.
YouTube reserved the right to make your experience shitty. Deal with it if baby is too cheap to use the service when ads.
You all have a massive entitlement complex. YT owes you nothing.
YouTube reserved the right to make your experience shitty. Deal with it if baby is too cheap to use the service when ads.
Sure, up until it so shitty that people don’t use it anymore, then what ?
I don’t see the point of paying for a service for having the privilege to be the product of the service.
You all have a massive entitlement complex. YT owes you nothing.
Nope, it is a fight back complex. YT try to fuck me up, I try to fuck them up.
So a fantasy story shit how yt loses all of its customer. Especially the paying ones who don’t deal with ads 👌👍. Google doesn’t give a shit if the fee loaders leave.
Fight back 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You are bitching about slow down on a forum with a 1000 active users. You aren’t even a blip. Normal people will just pay because the service is valuable.
You are massively entitled. If you think it’s so shitty stop using it. You can’t. And yet you’ll bitch about $12 a month.
So a fantasy story shit how yt loses all of its customer.
Fine, you think is a shit show story. I suppose only time will tell.
Especially the paying ones who don’t deal with ads 👌👍. Google doesn’t give a shit if the fee loaders leave.
Nope, paying customers still see ads put by creator, as per YT explanation. They don’t interrupt the video but if a creator add them to the video, the paying customer still see them.
It is only a question about how much time will pass before even the paying customer start to think that he is seeing too many ads while even paying the service and have his data harvested.
This assuming that YT would will never put ads also on the premium service, which I would not be that sure in these times…Fight back 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You are bitching about slow down on a forum with a 1000 active users. You aren’t even a blip. Normal people will just pay because the service is valuable.
Oh well, the fact that YT it trying to fight back AdBlocker seems to refute that. If the people using adblockers are really that few, why even bother ?
You are massively entitled.
If you say so…
If you think it’s so shitty stop using it. You can’t.
And why I can’t stop using YT ? Let’s say that an AdBlocker is way more convenient to have then the possibility to use YT.
And yet you’ll bitch about $12 a month.
It is not the 12$ a month. I pay some service more because they are worth more money and I am the customer, not the product.
I simply am not that happy to pay to be the product.
Considering data harvesting, they can either pay me for my private data, or I’ll watch YouTube for free without ads.
And they’ll degrade the experience. See how that works?
You free load, you get a worse experience.
4 ads in a 15-20 minute video is as degraded as things get, I’d rather stare at the wall for 5 mins.
Contrary to popular modern corporate culture, I’m not a commodity who’s sole purpose is to provide continued growth quarter over quarter to appease shareholders. Meanwhile the price of YouTube premium has actually increased on top of increased cost of living expenses.
So fuck Google, they can actually pay me for my personal browsing information, or I’ll continue to use adblockers. Hell, yt-dlp isn’t out of the question at this point in time.
So pay. I don’t see the ads. You see how that works, right?
I do pay. They use my private browsing data for free, in return I watch YouTube with no ads because I use an adblocker. I have nothing in place preventing Google from tracking my internet usage, they can even track where I travel - So they’re free to use my data while I can watch YouTube for free without four ads in a 15 minute video.
As stated, I am not some commodity that exists solely as a means for large publically traded corporations bigger than most Governments to make a killing in relation to profits because of the modern mindset that growth must be sustained quarter over quarter in order to appease shareholders.
In Sept 2023 Alphabet turned a $76.69bn profit, up 11% from the same time last year. You see how that works, right. <–Notice no question mark, that’s a statement.
I would pay (as I pay for other services) if only I wasn’t the product.
👌👍
🤷♂️
reading through your comment history you keep repeating bullshit about ads
Whatever you say. I’m not sure what you mean bullshit though.
This is what I mean
What about that is bullshit?
oh no, poor google!!!
So just attacks? Got chu.
YouTube losing the war on AdBlockers, lol.
Until an alternative to Youtube happens, then this will continue.
About all this is doing is making me update my lists in UBO more often.
