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      yeah, them needing the money (??) or whatever is one thing, but this arrogant fucking attitude lately is so repugnant. set up a patreon, don’t fucking fight against your users like this. it’s not exactly real TV or oxygen, it’s fucking youtube. it’s 90% garbage anyway

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      That’s fine, but that’s why Google is doing this. They need people who won’t watch ads to stop using it to lower their costs. I mean what business survives with zero income? The question google is asking isn’t whether or not some people will stop using it, the question their asking is will enough of them stop for them to generate income.

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    Hahahahaha, do they know that using it without the ad blocker is worse than whatever else they’re going to do? I’d rather stare at 30 seconds of black screen than a 5 second ad, lmao.

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      Having a blank screen will make me less angry than seeing a long advertisement. Not to mention, I come from the days of dial up. I can wait a bit until I view the video.

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      Right? Having an ad blocker means my video gets slowed down by a few seconds, not having an ad blocker means I get to watch a 30 second ad from a local politician telling me about how we need to get rid of fornicators. I think I know my choice lmao

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    I remember what the internet was like before we had ad-blockers. I concur with others who have said turning the blocker off would make it even worse. There no fucking way I’m turning off ad-blocking under any conditions. I’d rather just stop using the internet altogether. I can not verbalize how much I hate ads. I stopped watching TV because of ads a long time ago. Never again.

    Oh man, I wish I could get a pair of AR-glasses with ad-blocking in real life. No more ads polluting the streets. That would be great.

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      I remember the first time I saw ads on YouTube, I had just set up a new computer and wanted to test everything. So I opened Firefox and loaded a YouTube video. I got a preroll and wondered “wait ad’s, on YouTube?” Then I realized I had been using AdBlock for so long I never witnessed the transition from ad free YouTube to YouTube with ads.

      These days I use unlock origin, Sponsorblock and revanced. For now it still works but maybe I’ll leave YouTube soon :/

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      I’m in the same boat and often wonder what right these billboard companies have to put their messages in my face

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      Yesterday a site for image translation I was using didn’t load the image. so I thought maybe it’s the adblock and man that was a horrible experience. How can people Stand all those flashing bullshit.

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      It’s even more weird all that invested time into people who are going to find ways to block them either way, instead of focusing on their userbase that doesn’t use them. Seems like they are rummaging through the couch cushions for pennies at this rate.

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      Considering they can use this knowledge to apply it to the entire Google ecosystem, I’d say they aren’t wasting money in learning about new ways to fuck us over.

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    They had a long time to make the ad watching process less painful, or adding actual value to a premium subscription, but they are doing everything to make YouTube worse.

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      i could maybe start to swallow the actual tech getting worse (just like everything else is lately) but this arrogant, odious attitude they’re putting on lately is so obscene and anti-consumer. it’s like it’s their god-given right to serve us ads and our solemn duty to consume them.

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      I know right? Executives just never seem to get that you actually need to provide value to have people want to sign up for it. Saying that though, there’s a lot of dumb consumers out there that just pay for it if needed.

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      I had the paid service until they jacked up the price for no reason at all. The second they announced the price hike for no reason I cancled my sub and have just been using a third party app to watch it on my phone or ublock on firefox

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      They should allow premium users to use third party YouTube clients using an API, like Reddit before Spez’s war on third party apps.

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      Yeah. The current amount of unskippable ads means there cannot possibly be a worse experience. Any kind of ad blocking, even if it means learning to write and compile your own code is better than base YouTube.

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    These shenanigans have me rapidly transitioning from “I don’t want to see your annoying ads” to “I don’t want you to make any money at all”.

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      I’m already there, and I’m applying this thinking to every site - including the one hosting this article.

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        Same, I view the whole internet through uBlock and a pihole, so my value as an “impression” is virtually zero.

        I’m not against for-profit websites making some money (and I run my own website, which generates a whopping $0), but Google has jumped the shark with their sketchy malware bullshit, and I’m starting to root for that organization to die.

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    They still don’t get it.

    Might get worse without turning of my ad-blocker” still beats “is definitely worse without ad-blocker”.

    I’m taking my chances.

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    I watch YouTube content on my tv, and get ads, next to using it on my PC where I block them. Generally I did not mind the ads, since it is part of the business model.

    But frankly the experience on the tv is degrading quickly in the last 12 months:

    From 2 skippable ads at the start (and end) of a video, I now get 2 longer unskippable ones, but regularly it doubles to 4 and a 5th that is either short or skippable. And if it’s still 2 at the start then usually 1-2 mins in I see 2 more long ads … If I have the gall to rewind or forward the video I get 2 more long ads, usually followed by 2 short ones a minute or two later… Some of that is probably ad-space tagged by the creators, but clearly YT overrules that and places its own ad markers.

    Slowly I feel it’s leaning towards punishment to watch content on YT, at least on the tv.

    On top of that there is the annoying interface that blocks a full 30% of the screen, often blocking the one thing I wanted to look at. Then the ads that always break subtitles of the video, or somehow enforcing subtitles in a language that I can not read.

    And don’t get me started on the topic-bubble the algorithm captures the user in.

    YT should have left it as it was a few years ago, but it is forcing more and more ads, making things unfriendlier for both the viewer and creator, all to squeeze the viewers for more and more revenue.

    It’s a shame it’s all so detrimental to the wealth of knowledge on there.

    So if a good and proper alternative is able to stand on its feet I will gladly follow the creators and watch the new stuff on there.

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      Use smarttube instead of the official YouTube app, the ads are gone and it’s better in every other way as well. Faster, more features, quality settings stay where you left them, sponsorblock support and much more.

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          I don’t think Newpipe is available on GoogleTV, but I could be wrong. You can log into your Google account with SmartTube so it functions more like the YouTube app with adding to your watch history, keeping your subs synced, and getting recommendations in the GoogleTV UI on top of having sponsorblock. It’s more like Vanced than Newpipe.

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      Just buy or build a pc and plug it into the TV screen

      It’s more customisable than a smart tv and you can even set up something like kodi

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    I love how aggressive google is becoming. It drives more and more people into the arms of open source os and firefox

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      It’s been years since I’ve used YouTube without Revanced, SponsorBlock, and uBlock Origin. The vanilla experience when I see it on other people’s devices horrifies me every single time.

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    Rawdogging YouTube today is a similar experience to what I had with a free trial of Hulu several years ago. The ads were so frequent and so lengthy that I cancelled several days before the trial was even over. I swear I was getting six minutes of ads for every two minutes of content.

    There’s a point where the greed makes the product unusable.

    I watch a lot of Tubi on my TV, and I find the ads there tolerable. They don’t just flood you with them. I’m totally ok with sitting through their ad breaks in exchange for a free watching experience.

    (I don’t know if Hulu has gotten better or worse. The experience was so god awful that I’ve never even slightly entertained the thought of trying it again)

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      And at least for now with Tubi, the ads come from a separate domain that you can block and only get a blank screen for the ad break.

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    Oh no are there going to try to block the ad blockers but then the ad blockers block the ad blockers blockers? When will it end? They can keep on trying to make it worse but people will just keep figuring out how to bypass it.