Uhhhhh…who thought that was going to be a bright idea? Google is probably the single biggest traffic draw for Reddit.
Did Elon secretly buy Reddit?
That’s literally been life for me for so long when I’m looking up quite a bit of different things. “Blah blah reddit”
They want the data all to themselves because they think it’s AI training gold
Where’s my share, reddit?
If they cut Google, I will literally never go to Reddit again. I probably hit a couple pages a week from Google search, and that’s it, but that will be zero pages if they are truly this dumb.
Looks like it’s back to game forums. ChatGPT has alslo mostly overtaken Stack Overflow for me. Reddit was just a nice to have additional source.
Spez is going full Musk. It’s actually insane. Like… Holy shit.
I’m praying for Reddit’s downfall here, because if companies are able to get away with this shit the internet is going to get oh so much worse in the near future.
The fact that Reddit thinks all that user-generated content is theirs and that they need to protect it from AI is really fucked up.
Reddit itself produces nothing, they wouldn’t exist without the users.
Absolutely pathetic that they may block search crawlers over that.
It should be pretty simple: the user generated content are volunteered by the users for free on reddit, therefore the content should belong to the users.
Same thing as with AI, if an AI model is trained with everyone’s data, then the AI model should be open and available to everyone.
Correct and the issue with their API gating was “Well they obviously value my free content. WHERE’S MY CUT?!”
Free API: I’m not going to complain. Paid API: Guess i’ll use Lemmy
That search is the only reason a lot of people end up on reddit. This won’t end well for reddit.
I have a feeling this is why they’ll 180 the decision if they tried. Probably wouldn’t even last a month. And that’s being generous.
It’s a catch 22.
Want search engines to see your data to serve it to users looking for your content? Needs to be open.
Want to stop businesses from “profiting” from viewing your data? gotta block all access.
You literally can’t have it both ways. This is a binary choice. People are going to “steal” the data anyway, not that reddit should own ANYTHING posted by users, ever.
What if every news site blocked reddit referrals unless reddit paid $1 per click or someshit? It’s the same thing. Reddit is an advertising company, nothing more. They need the clicks.
Companies need to understand what I was told as a kid. Whatever you post on the public internet, is there for anyone to find and use. Trying to fight scraping means preventing your users from accessing the website as well
Yeah, I’m really hoping they go ahead with it for that reason.
Literally the one reason I still use Reddit is because appending site:reddit.com gives me actual results. Reddits’ built-in search results are utter dog shit and you cant find anything. They’d just be shooting themselves in the foot for blocking Google
Search results have gone to shit since everyone and their mothers started doing this SEO-optimization bullcrap. Google obviously has no reason to fix this situation because it makes them more money when people spend more time looking for something. site:reddit.com was one of the mitigators for this problem…
I’d gladly ditch search altogether and use ChatGPT + browsing support, but that’s similarly dogshit because it’s working off of SEO-optimized bullcrap results too.
SEO should have been immediately dealt with years ago by having search engines permanently blacklist domains that pull that shit, no questions asked.
It’s just me or reddit is copying everything Twitter is doing? Elon Musk did this and rolled it back as soon as it was obvious it was a bad idea.
Spez expressed in interviews that he views Musk’s rampage with twitter as a positive example, so no surprises there
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You do your name justice and all and I know (well, hope) you are exaggerating, but I wouldn’t wish any physical harm (especially sickness) on others.
That aside: I hope both fail horribly, lose their jobs and enough money to sink into a meaningless life where they are forgotten.
I would.
Butt cancer, both of em.
I’m at a loss for words. Surely, YouTube trying to Adwall would be the stupidest thing in social media history. Surely, Musk changing Twitter’s name would be the stupidest thing. No, Steve Huffman has somehow managed to surpass the old masters. “We can survive without people being able to find our website VIA SEARCH RESULTS”! YOU. STUPID. MOTHERFUCKER.
The YouTube ad-blocker ban isn’t stupid at all.
Something isn’t a bad business decision just because you don’t like it. That’s now how business works.
“I won’t watch videos at all if I can’t view them without watching ads or paying money.”
…Yeah. That’s the idea. From a business perspective people who don’t pay or view ads are leeches they’re perfectly happy to burn off.
If you view people as purely advertising receptacles then this business move is logical. But if you view people as agents that can build their own alternatives or advertise your services then this would seem to be a dumb business move.
If you view people who actively cost you money while bringing nothing to your business as assets you’re bad at business.
If 100% of people who used adblockers decided to stop using YouTube entirely over this, the only result would be YouTube saving money. Video hosting is simply too expensive for anyone to make a website where anyone can host and view for free without ads.
bring nothing to your business
Well that’s the contention. Your example starts and ends with people leaving YouTube. If YouTube is the limit of consideration then yes, no value exists outside YouTube and this is a silly argument.
But but everything on the internet should be free! /s
Something tells me we’re seeing the start of the fall of the free internet.
Everything seems to going the route of subscriptions/paywalls.
Surely, YouTube trying to Adwall would be the stupidest thing in social media history
That would be Facebook no longer requiring a college email address.
This is the pattern dying companies follow.
I do not use a single social media site that requires me to sign in to view it.
Or one that makes me download their app. Reddit have tried disabling their mobile site in the past in favour of a link to open in the app, I even tried it a few times as I already had the app installed and signed in but the link just took me to the App Store instead! Thankfully the mobile site seems barely functional at the moment.
Yet another stupid idea from Reddit.
I made the mistake of checking out the new homepage design, it is absolutely horrific. No idea why anybody thought it was a good idea.
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Literally the only time I ever use reddit is if it is a google result(stopped after 3rd party ban).
Yea, me too. I kinda wanna learn to stop doing that. It’s just, a lot of the times, that’s the only place where an answer is available.
yup, especially obscure tech problems, or tech problems that started happening today because of an update (looking at you discord).
I will forever remember the time when I spent a week talking with a dipshit miscrosoft support guy who insisted my entire brand new drawing tablet was broken, despite me telling him the problem was most likely in my laptop or windows itself and after giving up on that guy I went to reddit and had my issue diagnosed and solved in like 3 comments flat
they’re really trying to kill Reddit aren’t they
My theory is that reddit just doesn’t make enough money to stay open without external funding, and as they started running out of that they desperately hired anyone they thought could make the company enough money to stay afloat.
And the dumbass ideas we keep seeing from them are the result of that. Anything to get a buck, no matter what it means to the user experience.
I think its about their plan to go public and some hedge fund bros told them if they want a sugar daddy then they have to implement more agressive ads and subscription fees to juice valuation. I hope it massively backfires.
Without google (or any other external search engine) reddit will be a worthless heap. One key feature of reddit was that one could find a lot of good information in relevant subs. A real treasure trove. But you could only find stuff with external engines.
The internal search function was a worthless waste of bits that could not find anything relevant, even if it bit the search function in the a…
Since the API exodus, I’ve only been using Google to look up something on reddit, strictly using cached versions only (no not give any more traffic to reddit). Whenever I could only find uncached hits, I still did the click of shame.
Thanks reddit, now I can cut the last cord. I couldn’t have done it without you.
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Exactly, Google search itself is so enshittified you pretty much have to tag “reddit” at the end of every query to find any solution to a problem. Even my 55yr boss knows this and he’s clueless about anything social media related.
Having tons of Google traffic to any company in would be a godsend, yet Reddit wants to ban it. What a fucking joke.
Reddit’s search can’t be enshitified because it’s never been good.
i never thought i would say this, but at this point bing seems to be a better search engine than google
Spez is an arrogant prick.
So Reddit would go from a social open hub, the “front page of the Internet”, to a walled garden? Ridiculous.
Look they’ve already cut off free API access. Here’s some other ideas from the Muskrat playbook:
Maybe change the name to P.com
Change the logo to ₱ (surely the Mexicans won’t mind that you’re using the Peso symbol).
Hmm, why not also charge money to get a blue checkmark by your Reddit username to be a verified Redditor? or maybe call them P-ers?
Oh, how about charging new users $1 to use your platform?
Isn’t this an act of cutting off your face to spite your nose? I understand that Reddit wants to monetize it’s for AI models. But if the content gets moved into a walled garden, and reddit’s own search features don’t improve dramatically, then what’s the point of going to Reddit?
