YouTube isn’t happy you’re using ad blockers — and it’s doing something about it::undefined

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    YouTube is WHY I have adblockers to this day. I was Ok with the ads at the beginning and end. When they started cramming 2-3 ads in the middle of a 10 minute video, that’s when I started looking for a solution.

    Their greed is why they make $0 from me many years later.

    I think it’s rich they aren’t happy with people using them when they’re the ones that made the standard viewing experience awful in the first place.

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      i remember when ads started rolling out when I was much younger and i was like this is odd but ok then they became longer than skippable then an ad played in the middle of my video and i was like must be a glitch haha.

      i cannot even look at youtube without an ad blocker i feel like 13 viruses would be downloaded at a glance

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      What sucks is that my kitten sleeps on my desk and every single time one of their ear-blasting ads comes on he flicks his ears in discomfort. It’s not even that the ads themselves are loud (they are, very very loud) it’s that every syllable and sound effect has the Attack turned up to 11. Sometimes i’ll be in the other room it will sneak an ad on me and all i’ll hear is TKnn TKmm TKTKmm TKTKTKmm mm TKTK mm mm

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      WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE TRILLION DOLLAR SURVEILLANCE CAPITALISM APPARATUS !?!

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        THE DYSTOPIAN 1984 OCEANIA SUPPRESSION SYSTEM THAT CONTROLS THE TRUTH ALONGSIDE THE BIG BROTHER HAS FEELINGS TOO, YOU KNOW ?!?!?

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    ! 2023-10-06 https://www.youtube.com
    www.youtube.com##tp-yt-paper-dialog.ytd-popup-container.style-scope
    

    Oh no, anyway.

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    The day I can’t get around youtube ads is the day I stop using youtube. I already refuse to use it on my mobile device or my TV, due to the ads.

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        It doesn’t block it, it doesn’t even download them or even request them. There is no concept of ad in NewPipe.

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            The official newpipe isn’t on the play store because it breaks their terms of service, which makes sense considering 2 of the 3 “newpipes” on there are just completely different apps using the name and logo of newpipe. The third is actually newpipe but with loads of ads added, not sure how long it’ll last before Google nukes it.

            But yeah for newpipe just get the offical ad free and open source version from TeamNewPipe on GitHub or on F-Droid in the main repo. Or if you want newpipe with no ads and also with sponsorblock, you want to get it from polymorphicshade on GitHub or through F-Droid with the Izzyondroid repo.

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      YouTube ReVanced gets you completely adfree, configurably de-shittified Youtube with sponsorblock on your phone. (And Youtube Music ReVanced is premium YT music, for free, of course also without ads.)

      And Smarttube Next does the same thing on Android TVs, FireTV, and probably some others I haven’t used.

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      My guy there are like 34 different ways to get around YT ads on mobile and TV.

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      On Android the Firefox app allows the use of extensions including all the adblock options you would find on PC. Works great and for YouTube as well.

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    The thing is YouTube just can’t be nice about it. It just cannot. In times that it was adblocker resistant, they’d add more and longer and worse ads until they pissed off enough engineers who collectively declared it a crisis and built the many anti-YouTube-ad solutions we have, from alternative YouTube mirrors to the Firefox packages.

    We’ve seen this play out in the tech industry multiple times, and always the public wins thanks, largely to programmers who just get ticked off and spend a weekend on pizza to create a bypass.

    The executives at Alphabet know all they have to do is allow concessions to be only mildly annoying and leave them. Five minutes of commercials for fifty minutes of content? That might be fair so long as it’s pizza ads and not Jesus ministries telling us how sinful the LGBT+ are or Matt Walsh suggesting we make it illegal for some folk to vote.

    But they can’t do that. Shareholder Primacy means Alphabet must push for record profits, even if it means enshittifying all their services, including YouTube, and that means a 1/4 ad to content ratio and increasing that until it’s intolerable and ad-based profit numbers go down due to failing viewership.

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    What is even more infuriating, I’m from one of the countries that had YouTube Premium Lite available. €6,99 for adfree YouTube with none of the ‘offline’ or YouTube Music nonsense that I wouldn’t be using anyway.

    My wife and myself have been subscribed for about 6 months now, totally seeing the value of it. Literally one month after signing my mum also onto it, she gets an email telling her that her subscription will end in a month from now.

    Fuck that shit.

    YouTube Premium Lite was perfect, affordable and removed exactly the main issue with YouTube: ads. Endless stupid amounts of ads.

    I’ll go back to Firefox with any amount of extensions that block ads and block the ad-block blockers. Google would have to burn the browser market to the ground before I’ll consider subscribing again.

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      Google would have to burn the browser market to the ground before I’ll consider subscribing again.

      They’re sure as fuck trying.

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      The irony in this? They have just announced this very subscription plan in Germany. Not even a week after axing the plan in some neighbouring countries.

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    I’m torn because fuck ads, but also YouTube is probably the most expensive website on earth to run (just the website itself, obviously a shipping company with a website will cost more.) Video is just obscenely expensive to store and they let free accounts upload 4k and keep it private.

    I honestly don’t know the solution here because YouTube being free is amazing, but they’ve literally never made money. I think a business model like nebula is more sustainable, but it sucks for those that can’t afford it.

    (To head off any arguments, I’m pro piracy, I just can’t blame YouTube to trying to stop people)

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    YouTube, I’ve been using ad-blockers since the advent of pop-up ads in the late 90s. You’ve never been able to stop this, and you aren’t going to now.

    I don’t use the YouTube app or watch your videos on my browser. I use FreeTube on desktop, LibreTube and GrayJay on mobile and FCast on TV so 🖕

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      Okay. Explain something to me. I’ve tried to use piped, but it’s just so dogshit slow. Unusably so.

      What am I doing wrong?

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    I’ve been paying the €5 ad free subscription without other premium features for years until they announced that it will be discontinued from next month.

    So then I am going to take a new look into ad blockers.

    Good job, YouTube.

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    What is it with the number of people “happy” to pay for Youtube Premium? Like “why yes, I’m glad I can give a company that spies on me day and night for the privilege!”

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      What kinda bothers me is that I recognize that something like YouTube is expensive to run and just switching to an alternative isn’t super feasible. I would be more than happy to pay for a service like YouTube that I use everyday. HOWEVER, not with their bullshit double dipping. If I am paying a company like Google to use their services, I don’t think it’s unreasonable that their should be an expectation or mechanism where that means I am not just no longer served ads, but that all tracking and data collection about my account(s) are stopped.

      That’s never going to happen though :/

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        You mean like cable that we paid for and got ads or like your cell phone/ISP provider charging you while selling your data simultaneously?

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          Yeah, I never said I thought it was tennable or that any system like I described has ever actually existed. Wishes and dreams, ya know?

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      Because their “spying” doesn’t really seem to have any down sides for me, and I get better, more useful, products from it. I don’t really care if they know what woodworking videos my boring ass watches.

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        They don’t just keep track of what videos you watch, they also keep track of what parts of those videos, as well as everything you search for and everything you begin to search for but never actually do. They also keep track of where you are when you watch the video and what device you are watching it on.

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          They don’t just keep track of what videos you watch, they also keep track of what parts of those videos, as well as everything you search for and everything you begin to search for but never actually do. They also keep track of where you are when you watch the video and what device you are watching it on.

          OMG, the horror…

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            It is for those of us who care about our privacy. I for one don’t want nebulous corporations with questionable ethics and data security policies knowing and tracking my every movement. And while yes, I recognize that to a certain extent that is unavoidable in this day and age, I don’t condone it nor do I want it to be easy for them.

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              People today are just too comfortable with the death of privacy and corporations spying what you do day in and day out.

              Everything about us is up for grabs but god forbid anyone watches a meme without monetization.

          • Gabu@lemmy.worldBanned
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            Give me your current location, list of immediate interests and last 100 searched queries, if you’re so okay with that.

            Of course, I don’t expect an obvious corporate shill to have any intellectual honesty.

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              What are you offering in return? Google gives me what I consider to be valuable services in exchange for that information.

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                  My reply is consistent with every other comment I’ve made in this thread. Google offers me useful services in exchange for my information. You offer nothing.

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            Its weird that you are okay with some company doing this.

            When if it was some stalker you’d be freeking out and going to the police and begging for help.

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              Its weird that you are okay with some company doing this. When if it was some stalker you’d be freeking out and going to the police and begging for help.

              ATTENTION STALKERS!!!
              This morning I watched a video of a guy making a 5 drawer cabinet out of plywood on my Pixel 6 XL from my home. I skipped the last 30 seconds of the video because I got bored.

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                I get it that marketing doesn’t bother you, but several tech companies have been found to give direct access to users’ data to their employees, who used it in all sorts of creepy ways.

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                GPS location please.

                Obviously I don’t want to know it but be sure there’s hundreds of Google employees that can freely access it.

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                on my Pixel 6 XL

                Congrats, you’ve already made hacking your phone 10x easier by telling a potential attacker what model you use.

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      Yeah, my experience with youtube ads

      Buy a Chromebook

      PragerU

      Right wing Youtubers

      Don’t vote to make abortion a protected right by the state constitution

      Buy a ford

      Here’s a pornographic/semi pornographic anime game we are paid to show you

      BUY A CHROME BOOK!

      Hey, check out this person’s scam! They paid us to force this scam on you!

      Look at these cable news channels’ youtube channels

      Listen to this mom who is totally concerned about some bill that will kill or save all the children

      BUY

      A

      CHROMEBOOK!

      buy a jeep

      Listen to this prepper try to hock you “survival” gear and shelf stable food

      Don’t you remember when families did things? wasn’t that fun? Families, doing things?

      Soon it will also be flooded with THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WILL EAT YOUR CHILDREN!

      I am interested in none of these things

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          You could always spice it up and see what you get.

          I use VPNs and ad blockers where I can / when they work. I also have an extension that makes my Internet traffic useless by sending random data. When I need to go to the official YouTube app and get ads I get a smorgasbord. Right now they seem to think I’m either a recently divorced middle aged man with ED who just discovered they are actually a balding gay man or a teenaged girl with period problems and a desperate need for a social media following. Neither of these even come close but it’s always entertaining to see what I get.

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        That thing, you know that thing that you already buy? Here’s an ad for it! Now we get to lie and say we were the reason you bought it!

        It’s so fucking weird how I got way more ads for runescape when I played runescape, and it’s not like I watch less runescape content today. They also seem to think I’m a girl because whenever I do get something unique it’s always for purses, make up, fashion and hygiene products; all of which I have a below-zero chance of ever buying.

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          I have never gotten an ad for a game I was currently playing. For me it’s always these mobile games, namely ones that use hentai art to sell the game, I have found out some of these are not actually porn games, or the most recent offering from the biggest studios.

          Oh you reminded me, hygiene products, all sorts of hygiene products that have been branded to assure me I am not gay, or a woman, for wanting bathe and groom myself. There is also the one where some douche tells me I am not a dish.

          I never get fashion ones, however my feed is periodically bombarded with videos to people who make subculture fashion for women. like lolita dresses. I have no idea why. The only thing I can think of is that I show an interest in music with associated subcultures and they just do not know how to get them right. Hey, this guy listened to Lingua Ignota, let’s send him 20 channels discussing pastel colored lolita clothes and kawaii culture.

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      These days I skip all, self-promotion and in-video sponsors included.

      Sounds like you probably use it but if not, get the SponsorBlock extension to do exactly this.