• @A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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    479 months ago

    I love the idea of paid social media.

    Theres so few people who’d pay for it that all the social media companies would, hopefully, collapse and cure us of one of the worst technoplagues of the 21st century.

    • gian
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      19 months ago

      Theres so few people who’d pay for it that all the social media companies would, hopefully, collapse and cure us of one of the worst technoplagues of the 21st century.

      I would not be that sure. As long as they will offer the choice between paying with cash or with data, social media companies will survive.

      • fernandu00
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        59 months ago

        Yeah or you pay with your data or you pay with your money and they still steal your data like YouTube premium and etc

  • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    209 months ago

    I refuse to be both.

    You want me to dodge ads and try to scrape my data from your service in order to use it? Fine.

    Want me to pay for the service? Maybe…

    I will not support double dipping while pushing ads in my face. Fuck right off.

  • darkmogool
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    169 months ago

    To be fair, you always paid it… just not with money…

  • @oakey66@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    If they didn’t farm data and charged for it right in the beginning, maybe it would have lasted longer before turning to shit. But demanding payment while farming data is just insane.

    Not to mention that they chose the absolute worst time to do this. They are just absolutely despised right now. They are either in the midst of scandal or scandal is just in their rearview. Why would anyone pay for this right now?

  • @tokyo@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    Genuine concern,

    How did people think stuff like this would be funded?

    I’m pretty anti corporation and capitalism, and pro open-source but this just sounds like regular inflammatory content.

    There seems to be a disconnect on the internet that everything should be completely free, ignoring all the costs that go into setting up websites and web applications.

    The money for it has to come from somewhere. If you want to protect your privacy (which you should) then you’d be better off paying for services like that than not. It’s been circlejerked to death but: If it’s free, you’re the product.

    Even Lemmy is not immune. Sure it’s FOSS, but it’s not free to host. Someone has to pay for servers, data, web domains and more.

    No matter what you do, if you want access to social media you’re going to have to shell out some cash, somewhere.

    Edit: I might get the eventual “oh they’re going to make you pay AND still sell your data so why should you pay?” You don’t. You put your money elsewhere if you were even considering paying. Invest in Lemmy and the Fediverse. Invest in your local server. There’s plenty more options.

    • @Fried_out_Kombi@lemmy.world
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      29 months ago

      Exactly. I’d honestly rather have paid social media than engagement algo and ad-driven social media. When your algorithms chase engagement over all else, it leads to real harms, like the youtube alt-right pipeline. Fediverse ain’t perfect, but I like that there’s no engagement-chasing algorithm, no ads, just donations.

    • deweydecibel
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      19 months ago

      No business that has investors has any right to claim any of this is about operating expenses.

    • gian
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      19 months ago

      The money for it has to come from somewhere. If you want to protect your privacy (which you should) then you’d be better off paying for services like that than not. It’s been circlejerked to death but: If it’s free, you’re the product.

      It was not always like this. When this “everything is free” craze started, in some cases the idea was to offer something free to attract customer to the paid services. In other cases the idea was to show how powerfull was something (Altavista for example was a demo to show how powerfull the Alpha processors were at the time) and were seen as another way to have some visibility. Other cases were investments from entities to offer a public service or something similar.

      It is only when companies were born with only the free service to offer that what you say become true.

      Even Lemmy is not immune. Sure it’s FOSS, but it’s not free to host. Someone has to pay for servers, data, web domains and more.

      True, but the costs are way lower and are also distribuited. I can host my instance for a reasonable low price and if I want I can share the price with some friend for example.
      See Lemmy as the old BBS, of course there is a price but it is the price of a passion/interest.

    • @SCB@lemmy.world
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      -39 months ago

      If you read the article, you’ll note that paid subscriptions are for ad-free services, which means your data is worthless, which means it won’t be sold.

      The entire point of these models is to comply with EU rules on data harvesting.

      • @dustyData@lemmy.world
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        09 months ago

        Lol, it will still be sold. They are still tracking your attention span and clicks. I can already think of two or three correlation tests to sell to advertisers based on that information alone.

        • @SCB@lemmy.world
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          -19 months ago

          Except this change is occurring because of EU rules that don’t allow them to gather that data.

          Those rules are dumb, sure, but this is the workaround - and personally it’s a workaround that I think is quite untenable. Social media succeeds because it is free.

  • @SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I look at FB less and less. I mostly use messenger to talk to people directly. Most of the feed is ads and the rest is pet photos, kids, pics of drinks/meals, memes, etc. Youtube has become an endless stream of auto insurance and grammarly ads.