cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/48813307
!!! IF YOU ARE AN EU CITIZEN, PLEASE DO THE FOLLOWING FORM !!!
https://fightchatcontrol.eu/#contact-tool
Be especially sure to select your home country’s permanent representation in the Committee, but selecting everyone the website proposes is a very good idea (and done by default).
Raise your voices and flood their inbox, this might be the last chance we ever get
Why is this specifically relevant to Linux users?
Well,
- controlling end-to-end encrypted messages is only possible if either the keys/certificates are not secret (which is possible with TLS), or the software on the end-users device is not controlled any more by the user (but perhaps by law enforcement, or companies). This overturns the basis of any FLOSS software system where trust is based on transparency and user control.
- age verification will typically done by a form of attestation, a highly problematic concept. Again, this would require to run software on the users device which can’t be controlled by him or her, which is deceptively called “trusted computing”. (Technically, age verification could be done by other means, but this is not what these proposals aim for).
- in the world of public-key cryptography, which is what TLS , GnuPG, and most other modern systems are based in, encryption and digital signatures are nothing but two sides of the same coin: Who breaks encryption keys necessarily also breaks signature keys. This means it is not possible any more to sign software such as the Linux kernel, or Email clients, or browser packages. Or even banking apps or bootloaders for smart phones. Which means to give control away to the entities, groups or induviduals controlling these keys. Ironically, this will make computing lot less safe, and also undermine trust in communication networks, because communication where we can’t be sure that the communicated symbols are genuine is for humans as worthless as the numbers on fake money. (As a corollary, it is also bad for business: All business is based on some amount of trust. Would you do important business with somebody if the only communication channel you have happens to be a messanger which is a compulsory liar?)
To sum up, this is a massive transfer of control.
These politicians really aren’t afraid of those they were elected to represent…
For their sake I hope they stop this FAFO, before more damage is done.
I’m tired, boss.
So am I, but they are not.
I feel you
Still can’t fucking believe Denmark, my country, supports this. Yeah, it got revised thanks to Denmark, but it shouldn’t be revised, it should be killed.
Denmark not only supports it, it’s the one country that pushes the hardest for it, and did from the start. Which seems weird from my German perspective, because I wouldn’t exactly associate Denmark with a police-state, quite the opposite actually, especially compared to Germany.
the europeans on lemmy continue to insist that americans are ahead of the fascism game; but we still don’t have chat control and have only elected one fascist so far. lol
I think electing him twice should count for something.
that’s fair. lol
At much harder the second time.
Every single swing county supposedly went the same way, there’s a county in New York where Harris supposedly had zero votes- despite locals claiming they did.
Alot of sus
but we still don’t have chat control
Who needs chat control when you have the Patriot Act and PRISM?
You absolutely are ahead of the fascist game, so far ahead that your billionaires are funding European fascists and emboldening them.
our billionaires are also funding the protests again them; one of the walmart heirs is entire responsible for the noking protests.
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Find me a white bus driver in Copenhagen, I’ll wait.
Want me to start counting? I could start with the 8 bus drivers I went to kursus with at Langsøhus.
Denmark is one of the fascist cores of the EU and sells its influence to the US in exchange for preferential treatment.
Yes, that’s why we were so glad to give away Greenland to the US. Oh wait…
Silkeborg == Copenhagen
It’s a 3F kursus centre. Nobody who went there came from Silkeborg. We were mostly from København and Aarhus.
And we still didn’t sell Greenland to the Americans.
“outlaws anonymous communication” - This sends chills down me more than anything else I can remember. The people and organisations that benefit from this can’t be trusted.
The only thing this does is control the law abiding public. Criminals are already breaking the law, and won’t care. It is trivial to build an anonymous communication app. There will always be a workaround.
Anonymity, and free speak should be human rights.
“Outlaws anonymous communication by requiring every citizen to verify their age…”
To me that reads similarly to age restricted websites asking you to verify your age before accessing it, where you just input a date that says you’re old enough and then you’re set. I’ve been 99 years old for the last decade. Given what they’re trying to do, I wouldn’t be surprised if they use more extensive verification measures, but I haven’t read into that yet. If it’s just an age/DOB input, then it’s not really outlawing anything.
What is this Law Enforcement Working Party?
What is its relationship to the Council?Ok, the website says that Germany already opposes it. Is that outdated or what? I don’t want to spam MEPs if they already agree with me.
Spam them regardless. You want them to stay where they are and to argue firmly. Especially coming from Germany when talking about the evil of the surveillance state.
Back in the Merkel-era if Germany opposes it was over.
A populace in which it is politically safe to even float this suggestion is weak.
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Un-fucking-believable 😡
Who do we need to kill?
srsly considering to vote for a party against the eu next election.
whats the point if it is just oppression. Conservatives ruining the world.
Are there any left eu-skeptic parties?
sry i am not aware of any, or atleast any pary i have been intrested in till now was anti-eu
but conaidering i am very left and am having these thoughts, i would hope that if this really gets approved, that either my local party changes their stance / atleast advocates for strong eu reforms Or that a smaller new one changes its stance
ofc voting right wing is not an option
I don’t get it. If an email was encrypted with PGP between a friend and myself, how would anyone else without the private keys be able to decrypt it?
They can’t, but that is not the purpose. If the chat control passes then all big services will be forced to leave EU or build in a backdoor. That will give them control over more than 90 % of the population and satisfies their goal. You and your friends are a rounding error. And if you would perform a crime, or are suspected of one, they can use the fact that you encrypt your messages against you.
the way things are going Europeans are gonna have to start fleeing to China to get a semblance of free speech 🤣
if i’m not an eu citizen, what can i do to help
Just sent it, thanks for the reminder. Sent it before too an one representative actually responded which was nice.
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