Microsoft is doing more for Linux adoption than anyone else ever has lol
Valve with Steamdeck and Proton development: “Am I a joke to you?”
Steam took the cap off the toothpaste tube.
Microsoft is giving the toothpaste tube a good squeeze!So many people just immediately gave into ChatGPT, I doubt Microsoft’s actions will do that much damage. Besides, for anyone not using it it’s pretty easy to ignore. I don’t do a single thing on my PC that requires much beyond opening a game or Firefox so I don’t feel the pressure to leave at the moment.
That and backwards compatibility for Win7 & Win10. Shares of those OSs have gone up and several application developers have announced continued support or are advocating for unlocking/keeping secure those OSs.
Source?
I have said the same as well. Prior to them dropping the fat grumpy that is 11, I was all in on the windows ecosystem for myself. I heavily modified it of course so it didn’t have a bunch of the nonsense but overall, the experience was good. But then they started warping 10, and then they came out with 11 which was massive garbage at release and now is worse garbage years down the road. And with that AI outlook, I’m full on bailing from everything.
I’ve got two friends that are right in the edge of trying. One has a spare thin client that he wants to PoC with and was asking for distros and how to install. The other was thinking of jumping in the deep end with Arch, and I’ve warned him, but the wiki is solid, he’s not dumb, and Arch install is better than it ever has been.
And literally 99% of their userbase will stay on Windows.
Microsoft is so incredibly fucked when the AI bubble starts to burst. They’ve abandoned so many of their other projects and customers to go all-in on it.
I keep parroting this, but in the next couple of years, I think there will be a couple of giants that fall. I work in ServiceNow and they, like many others, have gone all in on AI. Their problem is that they were slower than some, their solution is half baked at best, and it’s prohibitively expensive. Nobody is paying 10s of thousands+ extra for the licensing to be able to run agents, and less are paying the extra licensing required for the users to be able to use that agent.
I’ve now been pulled into copilot studio, and yet again it’s another product rushed to market that isn’t ready for the big stage. Dog shit documentation and training material, and terrible environment design.
All of these big players have invested so much money in adding AI, nobody wants it, and now they’re all hemoragging money.
Their problem is that they were slower than some, their solution is half baked at best, and it’s prohibitively expensive
Sounds like a lot of company these days.
It won’t make a difference.
What other projects they abandoned do you see as so critical that it would break Microsoft?
I think that Microsoft will continue in some form regardless of what happens with this bubble because they have huge amounts of physical assets and cash on hand.
That said, their market position in any given sector they’re in might not be as invincible as it seems. There are corporations that were titans of their industries, including technology, that either don’t exist or are ghosts of their former selves all in far less than a lifetime.
Kodak, Xerox, Bell Labs, IBM, and Yahoo all looked like unstoppable juggernauts when I was a kid, and my own kids haven’t even heard of some of them.
Copilot, Github, LinkedIn, ChatGPT are the ones that come to mind. All of them have started to degrade in quality in one way or another, and with the exception of LinkedIn, they all have competitors that could potentially, over the long haul, could dismantle Microsoft. They’re also running out of places to extend and extinguish.
It probably won’t happen in one or two lifetimes, but enough cracks in a dam accumulate and eventually the whole thing breaks.
It probably won’t happen in one or two lifetimes,
I understood their comment as AI crash leading to Microsoft crash. A decade of degradation is a different argument - that I would agree with as more realistic.
With 68% of consumers reporting using AI to support their decision making, voice is making this easier. [1]
Does anybody actually believe that 68% of consumers use or even want Copilot? But they included a source for this very generous assertion at the bottom of the page:
[1] Based on Microsoft-commissioned online study of U.S. consumers ages 13 years of age or older conducted by Edelman DXI and Assembly, 1,000 participants, July 2025.
Oh yeah, that’s compelling: US consumers, 13 years old and older. An entire thousand of them!
So the only question I have left is which junior high principal Microsoft “compensated” for this survey, and what happened to the 320 summer school attendees who said fuck you, no anyway.
They got that 68% usage number likely by counting everyone accidentally using it after a search swap or similar trick.
they are equating “AI support” with “I want AI copilot integrated into my OS”
and that’s a big leap
_____ _ _ ____ _ __ ___ _____ _____ | ___| | | |/ ___| |/ / / _ \| ___| ___| | |_ | | | | | | ' / | | | | |_ | |_ | _| | |_| | |___| . \ | |_| | _| | _| |_| \___/ \____|_|\_\ \___/|_| |_|fuck off, not my shit you wont
What saddens me is that I can’t tell which game this is.
It’s not Zero for sure, and not the 3rd I think either.
Is it the original 1 or 2?
Don’t know
How to either make more sheeple or convince more to switch to Linux.
The only reason I have a windows box is for gaming, specifically sims (racing and flying)
Ever more reason to test and see if the wheel and flight stick work under Proton.
I’d be amazed if you were the first person testing if those things work. However, I would not be surprised if your specific peripherals do not work as they are supposed to.
If you know someone with a Linux pc it could be easy to test it out.
I’ll probably throw in a spare HD and dual boot the box to test one of these days. Each successive MS attempt to force crap down our throats just further incentivizes me.
i think the whole problem is that they call it AI, which basically describes it as something that it just cant deliver
It can deliver… your personal information to the states +third-parties
I asked copilot…
How would Microsoft loyalty to US or other government’s national security possibly compromise a user’s PC if that user gives copilot permission to operate their PC?
How national-security or law-enforcement demands could lead to compromise
- Compelled access to data Microsoft controls — If Microsoft stores or indexes any of your Copilot data in the cloud, Microsoft can be required by lawful process to produce that data to U.S. or other governments with legal jurisdiction.
- Compelled changes to services — Governments can issue orders that require providers to change logging, enable access, or install monitoring in ways that may be secret or accompanied by gag orders.
- Access to telemetry and diagnostics — Diagnostic or telemetry data that Copilot or Windows collects can include evidence of your activity and may be producible under legal request.
- Local features that capture content — Features designed to assist (for example, an automated “Recall” that snapshots screens) create local records of sensitive material that increase exposure risk if accessed by an authorized party.
- Remote-control or agent capabilities — If Copilot is granted elevated permissions (input control, script execution, system configuration), those same capabilities could be exercised under legal compulsion or via back-end access mechanisms.
- Software updates and maintenance — Lawful orders can compel vendors to ship updates or config changes that alter how a product behaves, increasing access to user systems.
Practical ways those legal obligations could manifest on your PC
- Production of synced or cloud-stored Copilot logs, prompts, or screenshots to authorities.
- Microsoft being required to provide live access or historical logs from back-end services that the Copilot agent uses.
- A secret court order or national security letter forcing Microsoft to enable additional logging, monitoring, or remote access for a targeted account or device.
- Disclosure of keys, tokens, or server-side records that tie on-device events to your identity.
Why elevated permissions matter
- Read access to files and memory lets an agent capture documents, credentials, or keys.
- Input/automation control enables actions on your behalf (open files, send messages, change settings).
- Persistence (services/agents) makes it easier for any compelled access to be effective and harder for you to detect or disable.
Risk-reduction steps you can take now
- Limit permissions: Grant only the minimal Copilot privileges needed; avoid giving input control, admin rights, or system-level automation.
- Disable features that capture content: Turn off any screen-snapshot or automatic indexing/Recall-like features if you don’t need them.
- Avoid cloud syncing for sensitive data: Keep sensitive files off services that sync or index them in the cloud.
- Prefer on-device-only models: Use local-only AI modes when available so prompts and context do not leave your machine.
- Use full-disk and file-level encryption with keys you control; avoid storing keys where the vendor could be compelled to retrieve them.
- Harden account security: Use strong, unique passwords and MFA on accounts tied to Copilot or Microsoft services.
- Audit logs and telemetry: Review and reduce diagnostic/telemetry settings; regularly review logs for unexpected activity.
- Segmentation: Use a separate machine or VM for highly sensitive work so a general-purpose Copilot-enabled device doesn’t hold those secrets.
- Legal & contractual protections: For high-risk contexts, seek contractual commitments, data residency options, or legal counsel about how a vendor handles lawful demands.
Quick practical checklist
- Turn off automatic screenshot/Recall features.
- Remove admin permissions from Copilot agent.
- Keep sensitive work on a non-synced, encrypted volume.
- Use local-only AI options where offered.
- Enable and monitor endpoint and network logging for unusual remote access.
Short conclusion Allowing Copilot to operate your PC raises the surface where lawful government demands or compelled actions could expose data or enable access. The likelihood and scope depend on which features you enable (especially cloud sync, screen capture, and elevated permissions) and the legal jurisdiction over the vendor or the data. Minimize permissions, disable content-capture features, and isolate truly sensitive workflows to reduce exposure.
So uhm, copilot just told us not to use these new copilot features.
But if copilot is untrust worthly according to copilot then why would you believe copilot?
it’s specifically saying that “one day” it will be made untrustworthy.
And for some reason when I buy a laptop I need to also pay for that disgusting spyware. How is this scam still going on?
Only when you buy a windows laptop. You can buy MacOS, Android, chromeOS, linux laptops.
ChromeOS and android are about to be the same thing. I know you can buy laptops with Linux for a while (e.g., RHEL on IBM/Lenovo machine); however, it is definitely not the norm. It’s getting much better now, but if you want your choice of hardware it’s probably going to ship with windows. MacOS is quickly becoming a walled Garden too. I just want to be refunded for an operating system that I immediately wipe, and everyone else should too.
return of the clippy, now named skynet.
Oh thank God. I need more AI in my life to be useless
I was pondering about updating that dying w10 partition, just in case. Well, looks like someone else put the final nail in that coffin for me.
All with your permission and built upon the security of Windows 11.
So I can decline. Good.
You’re always in control of what Copilot Actions can do. Copilot Actions is turned off by default and you’re able to pause, take control or disable it at any time.
…until we turn it back on for you during any minor update.
that wouldn’t be “turned off by default”.
First day using a microsoft product? Checkbox magically checking themselves is as old as my first baby wee windows update.
Ah well you see, if you try to complain, you can go fuck yourself
