• Spaz@lemmy.world
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    I have a video recording of the ceo in a company wide meeting saying he will not enforce rto as that ship already sailed and wr will stay remote. Then 2 months later, enforces rto in email selectively to people that are within 25 miles of an office. I then asked him and gave him the video asking him about why he lied and have a screenshot of his dumbass resppnse about things shifting and blah blah. Took him 10 minutes to write his 6 sentence long paragraph. God what a twat.

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    My office just did the same thing. And the backlash is enormous. No one wants it. No one likes it.

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      Just silently grumping about it isn’t backlash. Backlash is a whole team just walking off, or a picket line around campus. Backlash is their precious stock price tanking because the whole on-call team called their bluff and the service is offline. They know no one will do that in this fascist hellscape of an economy, so they don’t care.

      Though I’m not sure it’s ’everyone’. I personally, vastly prefer in person work to remote, but I understand my views aren’t universal, or even common.

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        It’s about what you support rather than what you currently are comfortable with. Do you support flexibility and future proofing your job against your personal life circumstances? Probably yes. Then you support flexibility of workplace.

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      My favorite was when I was at Amazon watching leadership do the mental gymnastics to justify the move. At some point they just said it’s happening and we’re not listening to you.

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        At some point they just said it’s happening and we’re not listening to you.

        Which at this point is a more honest answer than the mental gymnastics they are pulling out.

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    We’ve looked at how our teams work best, and the data is clear: when people work together in person more often, they thrive — they are more energized, empowered, and they deliver stronger results.

    Would be interested in seeing that data.

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    So Microsoft’s is casting about for something new because AI is not worth the money they spent on it, and management are all out of ideas? Better get the grunts back in their cubicles. Perhaps that will magically fix it. A managerial cargo cult move.

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      As per the Dead Sea Effect, they’re looking to shed people without actually making them redundant.

      As per the Dead Sea Effect, they’re not going to shed the dead weight.

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    What I just read ? They return to office because thanks to AI they can move faster ?

    I want the same drugs.

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    Oh look! Another navel-gazer unable to feel validated without seeing people’s asses in chairs. That’s gonna be awesome for the introverted type who take the most pride in really great code.

    And this unhealthy preoccupation with asses is a bit of a red flag.

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    My wife does two days in the office and that sounds ideal to me. Really strange that lemmy generally sees zero benefits to the office.

    For example, I went in to met a coworker and fix her laptop. While I was there the devs in front of me were discussing a thing that my team was working on. I didn’t know they needed that thing and they didn’t know we were working on it. I took new information back to my group.

    While bullshitting with the tech support manager I learned some things about their policies and procedures. Found out I had made incorrect assumptions and learning about those helped me in my role.

    We’re social animals y’all.

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      I could give you great stories about the benefits of working from home too.

      I agree we are social animals but we are also in varying life stages, we have different needs and wants, we are diverse as a species. Flexibility is the answer, not one size fits all now and forever.

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      What you just described was a horribly inefficient use of resources. You gained insight through idle banter. While everyone is in office that’s what middle managers would tend to handle. All this time they thought they were herding cats, turns out the cats just wanted to be home. Now people don’t know who to go to because the “yes” person isn’t in a cubicle you can just waltz over to. Middle management needs a massive paradigm shift if they want to stay relevant in a WFH situation. And that seems increasingly likely to be the direction businesses will go once they cut staff with these asinine RTO policies.

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        I like to think that genuine connection and collaborations aren’t… resources. I’m not some chit to be moved from one column to the next. The stuff you are talking about is part of being a human being. Could I maybe technically crap out 10% more lines of code if I’m a hermit working in a dank closet in my tiny apartment? Maybe. Is the newbie next time who doesn’t know what to do going to have any chance to grow and learn just from being part of things that happen organically? No.

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      For example, I went in to met a coworker and fix her laptop. While I was there the devs in front of me were discussing a thing that my team was working on. I didn’t know they needed that thing and they didn’t know we were working on it. I took new information back to my group.

      Ok, but that just demostrate that you have no communication between teams. You get the information by sheer luck. have you been there 10 minutes earlier/later you would have missed it.

      While bullshitting with the tech support manager I learned some things about their policies and procedures. Found out I had made incorrect assumptions and learning about those helped me in my role.

      Again, non clear communication between teams and again you got the information by sheer luck.

      True, it has happened because you both were in the office but in a sane environment you would have knows these thing because they would have been documented.

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      I 100% agree with you (even though it will get the both of us downvoted into oblivion). The important part is that it only works if everyone is in the office at basically the same time.otherwise you’re just the lone guy sitting in there for no benefit.

      I will 100% choose a company or team that is in the office over one that isn’t. Half remote is THE WORST. Trying to have an in person meeting, and then the remote people whining they aren’t included in decisions, or they don’t know the details. Every meeting is a half robotic nightmare as everyone in the room fumes that you have to spend 20 minutes getting all the remote people on the screen and dealing with mic issues when this could have be a 5 minute hallway chat.