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Best time would’ve been when he pulled that stunt in Ukraine, second best time is now
I am not saying that I don’t agree with you. But this country is still not even close to considering nationalizing its own telecommunication infrastructure. Much less a privately held space company and a service of communication satellites. A large chunk of America believes that a for-profit business model for every good and service possible in life is the best course of action.
NOW they complain about giving Musk money?
Most of the 38 billion was given by Biden.No thanks, demolish Leon Hitler’s space program and bury it. NASA should be the US leader for space missions and not a South African neo-Nazi sack of shit.
When’s the last time the US nationalised something?
I think during world war 2. But things were worse then 15% unemployment and people still had massive economic leverage. I don’t think the US government is nationalizing anything anytime soon now. Neither party will participate in it because they are in the pockets of the oligarchs.
Racism. 1776.
The automotive manufacturers General Motors and Chrysler were partially nationalized in the wake of the 2008 Financial Crisis as were several banks… these were less a full government takeover and more of a government guided restructuring, but the government owned large stakes in these companies. Before that, the only full nationalization of anything substantial was the bankruptcy of the Penn Central Railroad and subsequent establishment of Consolidated Rail (branded as ConRail) the US’s only national freight rail company.
Conrail was later privatized into what is now the private companies CSX and Norfolk Southern. The collapse of Penn Central was the largest bankruptcy in history until Enron in the 1990’s. Amtrak, our national passenger rail corporation, is also a nationalized entity created around the same time as ConRail, for similar reasons, and is still nationalized (although the Trump admin wants to privatize it).
Didn’t know about Amtrak. Interesting. Thanks
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Nasa with less risk aversion. If a Nasa rocket blows up that’s big news. If a Space X rocket blows up, that’s a Tuesday.
No, we already have NASA
Then make it work.
Stop cutting their funding and saying the earth is flat and that global warming is a myth.
Stop cutting their funding
Stop electing stupid people and maybe you will get something.
and saying the earth is flat
Stop treating every opinion as worth of discussion even if it is clearly stupid.
and that global warming is a myth.
Start to propose some reasonable solutions and start to pass over the NIMBY syndrome.
(and no, only stopping to use ICE cars or fossil fuel is not a reasonable solution until you propose a sustainable alternative solution)
I’ve been saying this for years. the footprint that spaceX represents in national launch authority is out of whack to say the least.
The only reason SpaceX exists is because Boeing and Lockheed managed to compete so badly the only solution was to merge their launch businesses.
So we had one launch company, then spaceX made it two providers, now its back to one because B-mart is using antiquated launch systems (single use).
this isn’t incorrect. ULA is a fucking pork barrel of hideous proportions. doesn’t mean we shouldn’t nationalize spacex.
The only reason SpaceX exists is because Boeing and Lockheed managed to compete so badly the only solution was to merge their launch businesses.
To compete even worse
why stop there?
do it to meta, twitter, amazon, etc
Based? Then they can become regulated.
We? No. USA can if it wants that shit.
And the international customers, what about them? The ground stations, POPs, and terminals in other countries, hmmmm?
Dude… nationalize just means the US takes ownership of the company. They keep all the employees they keep all the customers. It runs like normal under new ownership. The taxpayers now own it. it’s a great idea.
You see too long we have been using public funding and allowing rich people to privatize the gains. It’s time to privatize those games and take back what we invested in as US citizens. We will still offer you eurocucks Internet since apparently it is more important than having a moral fiber in your body
I didn’t say it was a bad thing, I wanted to know about some of the broader implications, e.g. govt ownership doesn’t remove legal obligations. I doubt the govt could continue to offer service under the previous T&C, some sections would need revision. And Starlink’s T&C are slightly different in some countries, as are the operating conditions. Some countries who are nominally friendly with Starlink/SpaceX to allow ground stations, POPs, etc, might not be so keen on the US govt controlling things.
These are just some of the things that popped into my head when I read the article.
Usually the US government would take over an important business, replace the leadership, stabilize the business and return it to the public sector.
Elon was tampering with connections in Ukraine during live combat. I’m surprised anyone would trust or want to support one of his businesses. He should’ve been thrown in a black site after that incident.
SpaceX’s largest customer is the US government; once that relationship has been repaired I’m ambivalent about private/public ownership.
HMmmmM?
because let’s be honest, without tons of US GOV’T SUPPORT, SpaceX wouldn’t have ever been able to provide all those POPs, terminals and services. Funny thing that.
Seriously this comment doesn’t make any sense. It’s like you do not understand what you are commenting on and yet here you are with four up votes and now have my down vote and go forth and use a dictionary before you comment next time
Nationalization is so communist thing to do.
Marxist are genuinely dumb enough to understand why this would be an issue.
Quite ironic from people constantly accusing their political adversaries to be communists…
Errr… am I mistaken? This is the first time I’m hearing about nationalizing SpaceX and it’s from Jacobin…
Does Jacobin make a habit of calling people communists? Pretty sure they advocate for socialist positions usually…
big spiderman pointing at spiderman vibes if true
Jacobin is a late 18th early 19th political spectrum. It is not relevant to this situation.
Friend, the magazine this article is from is named Jacobin, after that political movement.
It is a US-based magazine, and it’s not very popular, so it’s understandable that you haven’t heard of it. But it does pay to read the article before commenting.
Well that’s not really the case. Conservatives will accuse progressive of being communists, and claim any social services are examples of communism. But it’s mostly those progressives here on Lemmy suggesting communist ideas.
So it’s not really ironic, just unsurprising I guess.
Yeah. Let’s give Trump that power.
Arrest Musk on violation of controlled substances acts, file immigration violation charges, invalidate his ownership shares due to securities fraud, as he falsified education and naturalization forms.
Or just emminent domain the shit. The Law is just made up right now.
Such an effort would be likely to fail AND take longer than the current administration is likely to exist.
