• @ikidd@lemmy.world
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    306 months ago

    They’ll roll over and offer an encryption backdoor, DOJ will offer a token fine, everything goes away and consumers get a deep, hard, dry anal fuck.

  • @Thatuserguy@lemmy.world
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    296 months ago

    I hope something significant happens because of this, but somehow I just see Apple walking away with a slap on the wrist before continuing to engage in anti-consumer practices like nothing happened

  • @bassomitron@lemmy.world
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    706 months ago

    I think people are ignoring looking at this through the lens of anti-competitive behavior. Right now there is an alternative, yes. But Apple continues to grab the marketshare in the US (and some Asian and EU markets). However, there is no guarantee that will be forever. Sure, they support SMS now, but again, no guarantee that’ll continue to last.

    Apple has displayed on numerous occasions that they do not care about interoperability with other platforms and have even been outright hostile and aggressive against them. Just look what happened when some kid figured out how to make iMessage work on any other platform. Sure, that kid’s solution was hacky, but he was 16 years old. If one kid can do it, then there’s absolutely no justifiable reason seasoned software engineers can’t figure out a secure solution.

    It astounds me that there are so many people defending any company that not only encourages walled gardens, but in some cases aggressively enforces it. Yeah there are alternatives, but people are lazy and seek convenience. iMessage just works by default, and so many folks get annoyed or even sometimes confused when non-Apple users ask them to use a 3rd party app to communicate with modern features instead of being stuck with SMS’s severe shortcomings.

    That’s why I think the DOJ is justified in this. Because it is anti-competitive behavior.

    • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod
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      36 months ago

      Apple has displayed on numerous occasions that they do not care about interoperability with other platforms and have even been outright hostile and aggressive against them.

      Which, as a Mac user who lived through the 90s, is some bullshit. Apple wouldn’t have survived if they couldn’t reverse engineer Microsoft stuff to get it to work with Macs. They relied on open standards to survive, and now they’re being assholes about other people wanting open standards.

      I’ve been a fanboy for decades and even I’m looking forward to the DOJ taking them down a peg.

  • iquanyin
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    116 months ago

    “The one that really jumped out at me was this idea that parents don’t want to get their kids Android phones if they have Apple phones" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 i’m sorry, but who came up with that, google? i can’t even imagine parents with apples buying androids for their kids, nor vice versa. how silly.

    i do agree that texting and other basic phone functions should of course be interoperable.

    • @Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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      146 months ago

      Yeah, I wouldn’t get my kid something I am not personally well versed in. My parents learned that the hard way by failing to stay ahead of me in knowing how to use Windows, back when we had 98, and 2000, and Vista, etc. I’m grounded, you’re locking the computer? Safe mode with networking it is, I’ll print my pornographic images after they download in 10 minutes.

      My mom just laughs anytime my kids misbehave. I guess I have it coming.

    • @derf82@lemmy.world
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      76 months ago

      There are a lot more cheap Android options. I wouldn’t want to get a kid a pricey iPhone for their first smartphone.

      • capital
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        -66 months ago

        Cheapest iPhone is $430.

        Being tied into FindMy is probably worth that, especially for parents.

        • gian
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          16 months ago

          Cheapest iPhone is $430.

          A ruggered Android phone cost about 200 € and there are also under 100 € android phones.

          As a first phone for a kid is more than enough, given how it will be treated

        • @derf82@lemmy.world
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          76 months ago

          You can get a new android under $200. And google has their own feature to locate their phones.

          • capital
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            Ok. Which is a current iPhone owner more likely to buy.

            1. The thing that ties into their current services and is a device which they are familiar with to help their kid when questions arise.
            2. Save ~$200 to deal with another service and have to do more work to support the device when questions arise.

            The juice isn’t worth the squeeze before we even get into how many years of updates that $200 phone is gonna get vs the cheapest iPhone.

                • @derf82@lemmy.world
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                  56 months ago

                  I despise any corporate apologists and fanboys. The fact that people complain about interoperability issues tells you many reject your idea.

                  The way Apple is going, my next phone will probably be a FairPhone that operates Android.

        • @Holyginz@lemmy.world
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          66 months ago

          Huh. Well it certainly would make sense to blame Apple at least partially if that information is correct. Which then means that the article is real but you fail to actually understand it and it’s implications.

          • @phoneymouse@lemmy.world
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            Windows phone failed because it sucked. Microsoft had every advantage in the mobile space. They had windows CE and pocket PC long before iPhone. They also had tablets. All of them failed in their own right.

            Under capitalism, you don’t have a god given right to have every product you make succeed. You don’t get to have the government step in and sue on your behalf because your crappy product failed. But, the Lemmy hive mind downvotes because “Apple bad.” People don’t have critical thinking skills or principles on here. There is pretty much no difference between a windows or Linux user on Lemmy and a Trump supporter in this regard. You picked a side and you’re just going to root for your team, regardless of the nuance or merits of the arguments.