The difference is that China actually deals with corporations when they act shitty as happened with Alibaba and Jack Ma because China has a dictatorship of the proletariat which creates different material conditions from the dictatorship of capital you have in burgerland. No exceptionalism needed to explain this, just minimal capacity for critical thought that some people lack.
True, but I am afraid that the definition of “they act shitty” in China is very different from the one in the US.
Jack Ma paid because he criticized the regime, not because Alibaba was failing.
Jack Ma paid because he tried to expand Alibaba into a finance and do what western tech bros do. I love how you call Chinese government ‘the regime’ really highlights the quality of your ‘intellect’.
" to expand Alibaba into a finance" is not intrinsically a crime in a free country, so if China is really a free country, why Jack Ma was paid for something he don’t yet did ?
Jack Ma was punished because he had the courage (or stupidity given the situation) to criticize Chinese estabilishment for stifling innovation and economics, then Xi Jinping retaliate and Jack Ma went off the radar (only to be remerges after Xi Jinping “rehabilitated” him)
So yes, to me China is a regime. And if you think my intellect is not up to your idea of quality, you are free to move to China and to live in what I suppose you consider a better country.
" to expand Alibaba into a finance" is not intrinsically a crime in a country which allows pedo oligarchs to own everything and rule over the working class
Jack Ma was punished because he wanted capitalists to start having control over the economy. Calling that courage reveals what you stand for.
Enjoy living under pedo oligarch regime that fits with your fascist ideology. Your conception of freedom is literal fascism.
" to expand Alibaba into a finance" is not intrinsically a crime in a country which allows pedo oligarchs to own everything and rule over the working class
It is not a crime in any free country. It is not that the US is the world, you have a very narrow view of the world
Jack Ma was punished because he wanted capitalists to start having control over the economy. Calling that courage reveals what you stand for.
Oh yes, think what you like but the facts are that Jack Ma was punished after criticizing the Chinese govern for stiffling innovation.
Like everyone that has too much power (or is too much succesfull) in the country and became a risk for Xi Jinping.
Enjoy living under pedo oligarch regime that fits with your fascist ideology. Your conception of freedom is literal fascism.
Funny, I live in a country that experienced real fascism and to think, like you, that fascism is a real thing now make me smile.
You people who call fascist anyone who don’t think like you would were the first to be “removed” in a real fascist regime.
But hey, feel free to call fascist everyone and think that capitalism is the problem, while using something that was created in a capitalist society, by capitalist people working for capitalist company…
You’re right, it’s not a crime in any country where rich pedos rule over the people and cannot be accountable for their crimes. Nowhere did I say the US is the world, it’s just the model for the rest of the western regimes.
Nowhere did I say the US is the world, it’s just the model for the rest of the western regimes.
That’s what US like to think. In reality US was the model, now not anymore.
Outside US no one has thought of the US as a role model for many years. It is a story the US tell themself to think they are better.
Liberalism is literally just fascism when the going is good
Honest question: would you like better to live in places like China or North Korea then ?
And I repeat myself: if you think that liberalism is just fascism when the going is good, you don’t understand a thing and you should read some history books.
Shitty corporations are a nigh universal constant, not something exclusive to America. That’s American exceptionalism talking.
The difference is that China actually deals with corporations when they act shitty as happened with Alibaba and Jack Ma because China has a dictatorship of the proletariat which creates different material conditions from the dictatorship of capital you have in burgerland. No exceptionalism needed to explain this, just minimal capacity for critical thought that some people lack.
True, but I am afraid that the definition of “they act shitty” in China is very different from the one in the US.
Jack Ma paid because he criticized the regime, not because Alibaba was failing.
Jack Ma paid because he tried to expand Alibaba into a finance and do what western tech bros do. I love how you call Chinese government ‘the regime’ really highlights the quality of your ‘intellect’.
" to expand Alibaba into a finance" is not intrinsically a crime in a free country, so if China is really a free country, why Jack Ma was paid for something he don’t yet did ?
Jack Ma was punished because he had the courage (or stupidity given the situation) to criticize Chinese estabilishment for stifling innovation and economics, then Xi Jinping retaliate and Jack Ma went off the radar (only to be remerges after Xi Jinping “rehabilitated” him)
So yes, to me China is a regime. And if you think my intellect is not up to your idea of quality, you are free to move to China and to live in what I suppose you consider a better country.
" to expand Alibaba into a finance" is not intrinsically a crime in a country which allows pedo oligarchs to own everything and rule over the working class
Jack Ma was punished because he wanted capitalists to start having control over the economy. Calling that courage reveals what you stand for.
Enjoy living under pedo oligarch regime that fits with your fascist ideology. Your conception of freedom is literal fascism.
It is not a crime in any free country. It is not that the US is the world, you have a very narrow view of the world
Oh yes, think what you like but the facts are that Jack Ma was punished after criticizing the Chinese govern for stiffling innovation.
Like everyone that has too much power (or is too much succesfull) in the country and became a risk for Xi Jinping.
Funny, I live in a country that experienced real fascism and to think, like you, that fascism is a real thing now make me smile.
You people who call fascist anyone who don’t think like you would were the first to be “removed” in a real fascist regime.
But hey, feel free to call fascist everyone and think that capitalism is the problem, while using something that was created in a capitalist society, by capitalist people working for capitalist company…
You’re right, it’s not a crime in any country where rich pedos rule over the people and cannot be accountable for their crimes. Nowhere did I say the US is the world, it’s just the model for the rest of the western regimes.
Ah yes, innovation in China is so stifled that China leads in critical technologies across the board https://itif.org/publications/2025/09/23/how-china-is-outperforming-the-united-states-in-critical-technologies/
Liberalism is literally just fascism when the going is good https://dialecticaldispatches.substack.com/p/the-dialectics-of-domination
You’re an utter ignoramus and an imbecile.
That’s what US like to think. In reality US was the model, now not anymore.
Outside US no one has thought of the US as a role model for many years. It is a story the US tell themself to think they are better.
Honest question: would you like better to live in places like China or North Korea then ?
And I repeat myself: if you think that liberalism is just fascism when the going is good, you don’t understand a thing and you should read some history books.