‘Our long-term objective is to make printing a subscription’ says HP CEO gunning for 2024’s Worst Person of the Year award | Not satisfied with merely bricking printers, HP now wants to own them al…::It was only the other day we reported how HP has been slapped with a lawsuit in response to measures that disable its printers when fitted with a third-party ink cartridge. Now the company’s CEO,

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      I have a Brother laserjet I got on Amazon for $70 10 years ago. I print on it occasionally, and it always works. That thing has never needed new toner. It never jams. It just keeps going. Highly recommend finding a basic laserjet model from that brand.

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        Companies can change. I have a HP LaserJet 6P that I use with a LPT-to-USB adapter. That thing still works fine. From that anecdote I could also highly recommend HP. But that printer is now 25 years old or so and the company changed a lot since then.

        Brother could have changed in those 10 years. Or it could change in 10 more years.

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    Just happened today:

    Employee asks for toner for an aging HP Laserjet printer since it’s out. I look it up and it’s $198 for black (it’s not a color laser). I immediately looked up a Brother laser with an ADF scanner/copier and it was $199. High Yield Toner is $15 without a chip from a reputable 3rd party. Office is getting a new Brother printer delivered tomorrow and it’ll work 100x better.

    HP, this is how you kill your printer division. Short sighted idiots.

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      Legit question like I bought an Epson tank printer. I don’t use cartridges. I don’t use anything with HP on it right? So if they decide that they want to screw you over but they’re not a monopoly, wouldn’t we just go elsewhere? How is this a win for them? I just feel like they’re digging a hole for themselves

      No?

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        Epson is only marginally better with the Ecotank, the components are dated to fail within 2 years after the warranty. That being said, they’re second best to Brother because they actually price ink fairly.

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        I’m guessing he’s leaning on brand power and the exec thinks he can convince the shareholders because subscription is guaranteed income. He’s probably assuming the other big printer companies will follow suit and offer the same kind of service. In the end it won’t last and it will kill their printer business once everyone wises up to the fact that there is, at least, one better alternative. My office staff now won’t buy anything else they’ve been so impressed with the reliability and ease of use of the Brother I got a month ago to start replacing their old equipment. Word of mouth and shared experiences are still very much alive, and that’s his misstep.

        Of course, he probably doesn’t care since he has a golden parachute and this will keep making him money in the short term.

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      My inkjet hp started to throw error codes at me last month.

      I bought a refurbished brother laser printer and that thing is awesome

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        Yeah, their refurbs are great if you can get one before they sell out. That’s how I scored my first Brother for $99. Thing is a champ at home.

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    How much I would love if EU pulled a USB-C on printer ink/toner.

    “All printers must be compatible with one of these X possible formats of ink/toner. Lockdown is forbidden too”

    Sure the printers would be more expensive but I am sure we would see an incredible improvement in quality and decrease in ink/toner cost

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      Long time Brother Laser Gang member here, and toner cost is not an issue. Averaged over the last decade it’s cost me like a couple bucks per year.

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      How much I would love for America to stop letting it’s corporations get away with these things so we won’t have to wait for the EU

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      “This is the ink we use. Everyone use the same ink. Cheaper, easier, better for everyone.”

      “But sir, that sounds a lot like something Communists would do!”

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      I wouldn’t ever count a Bernie bill out, no matter how unlikely it seems. He has a reputation for getting things passed. His nickname in the Senate is “the amendment king”

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    1. Buy Brother, better printers without all this subscription garbage.

    2. How long before an ‘open source’ printer hots the market and terrifies this idiot CEO?

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      OkiData makes good business class printers too. The upfront cost is high, but the cost per page is low, so if you’re printing high volume then it’s cheaper overall.

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      Very happy with my Brother laser printer so far. It just works. Hasn’t held my prints hostage for any online ink subscription renewals… yet…

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    It’s simple actually. Don’t buy HP products. Even their laptops have huge quality issues and flawed motherboard designs. Their firmware updates are known to brick motherboards. Even if you are under warranty, they won’t give you a new board, instead they’ll give you a refurbished board. FUCK YOU HP.

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    With each new HP news article I grow more pleased with last year’s decision to ditch HP once and for all and get a Brother.

    The Brother just works. Even surprises me in some scenarios where I anticipate lack of support and it comes through anyway. Great printer!

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    what a literal fucking psychopath. i mean literally imagine waking up and thinking these things. imagine trying to actively make the world worse like this.

    oh yeah i’m trying to make bathrooms a subscription

    i’m trying to make food a subscription

    i’m trying to make tv a subscription

    i’m trying to make clothes a subscription

    i cannot wait to live in paradise

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      i’m trying to make food a subscription

      Hello Fresh, Blue Apron, and a few others have entered the chat.

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    That is quite funny, my objective since 20 years ago is to not buy anything with the HP logo.

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    This is why for the one or two times I need to print something a year I just go to the library and pay them $0.10 a page to print something out.

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      I bought a refurbished laser printer at a garage sale for $30 8 years ago. Still printing off the original toner

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    The moral of the story is don’t buy HP anything. Already trying to replace our large format latex printer from HP over this. Fuck that guy.

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    I don’t own a printer because the cost to constantly refill cartrages feels like a subscription already. I just go to the UPS store for the 3 times a year I actually need to print something, on a for-realsies printer that someone else maintains. usually costs less than a dollar every time I go.

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    Canon understands that selling a printer with a maintenance contract is a viable way to do business…to business.

    That’s a place where the option is very much appreciated.

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      As far as I know, there aren’t even any Chinese companies trying to enter into this market. Xiaomi has a few high-priced inkjet printers and that’s it.

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      It would be so easy for all of us to come together and “disrupt the market”, but we don’t. If we collectively get together, like a crowd-funded FOSS alternative, and build this shit ourselves and sell it, that would wreak havoc with the game these leeches play, but we don’t.

      WHY don’t we.

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      Ive been thinking about this recently. We have essentially done that for 3D printers from the start. We should absolutely do this for 2D printers