• @LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Yes. You people just cost money. Pay, or find a new service. I’m not so sure what’s confusing about this.

    Google isn’t going to let you use the service for free anymore.

    Edit: Reading comprehension seems to be at an all time low. None of this has to do with you liking YouTube or not. Nobody cares if you don’t like Google’s data farming. It’s 100% irrelevant.

    • @Rooki@lemmy.world
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      810 months ago

      Please tell google then, if we allow ads, then dont shoot at us 10 unskippable ads.

      1 ad per video < 10 minutes. 2 ads per video > 10 < 20. 4 ads per video > 20 +2 ads per extra 10 minutes

      Ads maximum length of 30 seconds. Ads should be monitored for anything illegal or harmfull for the viewer ( Scams, Malicious websites … )

      If google chose to do this instead of every minutes 2 unskippable ads ( or soon 5 ) i would think, there would be less adblock users on youtube. And with that you support more your favorite creator ( if you want to really support him, just give him some bucks on patreon or so ). Or just suggest him to go to any other video hosting website ( like peertube ) then users will have 0 ads and you can get support over donations.

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      10 months ago

      Google is already making millions by profiling its users and stealing their data. All these YT changes are not caused by them losing money, but by them not growing enough to please their (multi-millionaires) investors.

      (1) I’m not shedding any tears for a corporation that’s big enough to have more money that I’ll ever see in ten lifetimes.

      (2) I’m not paying for a “Premium” experience to allow them to keep profiling me (and thus gain more money). They are already gaining money off me, they don’t need my premium subscription.

      (3) You should stop arguing in favour of exploitative big corporations that don’t even know you and are probably actively exploiting you in this very moment.

      • @LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world
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        -1110 months ago

        What does any of that have to with what I said? Great, you don’t like yt, good for you. Who is asking you to shed a tear?

        YT doesn’t want freeloaders. Pay up, see ads, or play cat and mouse avoiding them.

        • Aielman15
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          810 months ago

          I’m not a freeloader because Google is already making a profit off me by profiling me. They are just being greedy and asking for more. If you are happy donating your hard-earned money to the trillion-dollars corporation that’s exploiting you, good for you. I am a sane individual and I’d rather put that money to good use. In fact, by donating to the WWF, I’m spending less money yearly than a YT premium subscriber, and I’m making someone happy that deserves it more than Google’s sleazy investors.

          • @LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world
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            -1010 months ago

            So you go into restaurants and demand half priced food? The price is the price. Pay it out deal with Google making your videos slow. I’m really not sure how all of you are turning this a value thing. It’s utterly irrelevant.

            • Aielman15
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              610 months ago

              Your argument falls flat the moment you realize an alternative to YT doesn’t exist because all these bit corporations have spent years either starving off or buying the competition, and they are now happily enjoying the monopoly they have created.

              I don’t expect Google to ever cater to me, and I fully expect them to keep their war going against AdBlock. It’s their job to make more money, after all. But the point is, it’s their job, not mine. I’ll keep doing what I think I rightfully deserve, which is, watch a few videos without the hassle of ads provided by the big corporation that has taken my data without my consent, sold it to the highest bidder, and made a fuckload of money off it.

              • @LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world
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                -610 months ago

                Oh so tiktok isn’t real and competing with YT? And twitch is just in my imagination? And I guess the curiosity stream is fake too!

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                  I’m confused about what you’re trying to say, because none of those are YT alternatives.

                  TikTok is centered on short videos. Twitch is a platform for streamers, mainly for video game content creators. Curiosity Stream is a platform hosting professional documentaries and science shows, it’s great but it has nothing to do with the amateurish nature of YT content.

                  All of those cater to a specific niche of YT (YT shorts, video game let’s play, and science channels, respectively), but there’s a huge chunk of content that doesn’t appear on any of those services, but is present and thriving on YT.

        • gian
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          210 months ago

          YT doesn’t want freeloaders

          Nobody is a freeloader on Youtube (or any other Google app)

    • @eltrain123@lemmy.world
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      2710 months ago

      If google stops strip mining my data when I pay for their service, I’d do it in a heartbeat. I’m not going to pay to be someone’s product.

      • @LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world
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        -4610 months ago

        Then don’t be shocked when they start putting up walls. It’s shocking to me how many people take this as some kind of right and act indignant and make up every excuse under the sun to justify why YouTube should cater to pirates 🤣

        • @takeda@lemmy.world
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          10 months ago

          Oh, go ahead and let them place YouTube behind the paywall. We need some new players in this area.

          I’m the product in the current YouTube business model, why should I care about their profits?

          Also I promise I won’t be whining if YouTube shuts down. I will be celebrating. For now, as they hold monopoly, I will watch them however I wish and help anyone else to do the same.

          • Firefox + uBlock - desktop
          • ReVanced, NewPipe - phone
          • SnartTube - TV
    • gian
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      210 months ago

      Yes. You people just cost money. Pay, or find a new service. I’m not so sure what’s confusing about this.

      I already pay, with my data. They stop to harvest data, I pay the service.

      Google isn’t going to let you use the service for free anymore.

      And I am not going to pay to be the product.

        • gian
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          110 months ago

          Maybe not the price, but the terms yes, at least partially, which are that I use an adblocker or I don’t use the service. Or pay for a service in which I am the customer and not the product.

          And I am really curious to see how Google can force me to use Youtube on its terms when I can simply stop using it.

      • @LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world
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        -1310 months ago

        Neat. None of you really understand the point or can read.

        Don’t expect YouTube to cater to you people who just steal 🤷‍♂️

        Whats so complicated?

    • @arvere@lemmy.world
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      010 months ago

      I agree with you. Google is a company and so will do as much as they can to provide as little and to profit as much as possible.

      if one wants to use their products, they have to play their game. by either paying (with money and or data, regardless if it’s overpriced) or “cheating” around that - as we do with literally everything else in the free market system, to many other monopolistic shady companies

      what’s interesting to see around here is this sense of self entitlement, as if Google owed them anything, and of naivety, as if a company would ever provide a service (which is very costly) for absolutely free. video streaming is not an essential service and didn’t exist until very recently

      it may come as a shock, but you don’t need to use any service such as YouTube to survive and you only do because you want to and find value in it (whether to learn new skills or watch people reacting to cats)

      the underlying problem here which all of you are actually mad about is the system where technology and knowledge belongs to giant hoarding dragons instead of the people who made it. that’s where we all should be focusing our energy on.

      in the meantime, we just keep cheating… and if the cheats fail, we move on to other things