• jenesaisquoi@feddit.org
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    2 days ago

    Many cities in Switzerland are implementing the same, but there is significant opposition from the rural areas. I hope we will arrive at 30km/h in all urban areas.

    • Taldan@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Hot take: Rural drivers shouldn’t get a say in how urban roads are designed

      It’s not their city. They don’t live in it. They can stay in their town if they don’t like it

      • insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world
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        2 days ago

        Is it not crazy to think that people in rural areas also enjoy the city and go to urban areas? It’s still the same country.

        • sunbytes@lemmy.world
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          2 days ago

          As visitors though. I don’t think their needs are irrelevant, but they shouldn’t carry as much weight as the daily users’

          • Kornblumenratte@feddit.org
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            18 hours ago

            So the inhabitants of small towns driving daily to work to the next city get a say? I don’t know about Switzerland, but in my area these are a considerate amount, if not the majority of cars in smaller cities. Most don’t need a car living in the city, but you cannot commute into the city without in most cases.

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              11 hours ago

              Would you consider someone who uses the road daily as a daily user?

              If so, re-reading my comment will provide a solution.

          • insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world
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            1 day ago

            Not sure it’s visiting necessarily if it’s their nearest urban center, as then it would be their main source of a lot of stuff so it’s theirs too.

      • Manfredolin@feddit.org
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        2 days ago

        They are.

        For any built up area with appropriate signage, the urban speed limit gets applied.

        Also a large chunk of the rural population is commuting by car, and has to change their (driving) habits, and changing habits takes effort.

          • dubyakay@lemmy.ca
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            2 days ago

            It’s different in Europe. When they say “rural”, they mean any small town not adjacent to a city or other conurbation.

            The density of small towns that have hundreds of years of history but are only 5-10km apart from the next 3-4 towns surrounding it are in a stark contrast to the 20-50km distances between North American towns. And rural farms are relatively rare. Farmers generally still live in the small town and then drive their tractor out to the fields.

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                2 days ago

                Because also the small rural village is classified as “urban” so it need to follow the same general law.

                Rural and urban are not mutually exclusive

                  • gian
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                    2 days ago

                    Here urban is loosely defined as everything inside the city/town/village perimeter, with no reference to where the city/town/village is located.