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      To be fair, the pi’s have always been famous for low quality sound cards, so there’s plenty of hats that can add the functionality.

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      It’s a shame that even the Pi Foundation is cutting corners. Cutting corners and removing features all while not even coming close to their target $35 price. Almost double for the base model. This doesn’t feel like it fits the spirit of the original Pi Foundation goals at all.

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        Sort of. I still haven’t been able to snag the top of the line CM4 (WiFi, 8gig ram, 32 gig emmc). I’ve seen a handful of CM4s with different configs that I don’t want. But for the 4B, yeah they can be bought now.

        Edit: haven’t been able to snag one in my region*

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    Its not very price competitive now. Its moved into the low end N100 territory with ITX boards and while its smaller and a bit less power its no where near as performant. They will still have some use in smaller applications but 5V x 5A is a chunky cable. I am not convinced this is the way now.

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    While I love Raspberry Pis and have a few older ones, it’s a shame that the latest ones were very hard to come by and far exceeded the $35 price point.

    I was looking to upgrade to a Pi 4 a while back but prices were outrageous or it was sold out completely. I eventually discovered tiny form factor PCs.

    I bought some used Lenovo Tiny ThinkCentres (which are about 10x more powerful than a Pi 4), off eBay for ~ $70. I upgraded the Ram and SSDs and they are quite capable, low power units!

    So to anyone looking for a low power computer to run Linux, consider buying used off eBay. You can get some pretty good deals on used hardware that’s more capable.

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      A friend of my dad’s old PC recently shit the bed and recommended such a ThinkCenter purely by specs and price point. I did some remote setup last night and I got the impression that it was pretty snappy running Windows 10. Such a tiny computer is definitely on my list for the future.

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        That would be more than capable. Retro emulation can run on very low end hardware.

        But here’s an ebay listing for same model that I bought earlier. It doesn’t include an SSD but you can buy M.2 SSDs for very cheap which I also did. Plus they’re much faster and more reliable than micro SD cards.

        It’s very easy to open the machine up which I liked.

        RAM upgrades are cheap too but 8GB is a lot for most cases.

        A lot of corporate environments use these so when they upgrade you can find them used for dirt cheap, if you don’t mind some possible cosmetic defects. Mine are just stacked on a shelf and I just use them as servers for docker and whatnot.

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      If you need something with power sure! RasPi has a huge community that supports it, that’s what sets it apart.

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    I assume this will be prohibitively expensive (I really can’t shell out any more than £60 and that’s pushing it already), and probably impossible to get my hands on.

    But if it’s affordable and actually available? Hell yeah, this thing looks fantastic. I love that we’re making something awesome here in the UK and sharing it with the world.

    Will we finally be able to run N64 games on this hardware, do you think?

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      Considering single core performance was the main thing holding it back previously. There is a good chance Nintendo 64 emulation should be better. Other Arm based SBC have been able to do it relatively easily for a while.

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        Should have went with stock support from the get-go, tho. Why? Because nvme lasts ““forever”” and is ideal for servers.

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          But that would increase the already quite high cost for all users, including those that don’t necessarily need it.

          Don’t get me wrong, I think the price is arleady too high and for the price I’d have expected more than a faster SoC, but here we are.

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    The real exciting news is the possibility of the pi 4 dropping in price as it’s now outdated.

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    These things are great for !boinc@sopuli.xyz often time leagues more efficient per watt in terms of computation than regular PCs. I have a couple of 'em working on cancer research and computing to develop an open-source patent-free covid antiviral. You don’t need a PhD to make a difference, all you need is a processor :)

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      I did a quick Google.
      https://web.eece.maine.edu/~vweaver/group/green_machines.html

      Is the best actual test data I can find. It uses a physical power meter, so it’s full system (not TDP or self reporting power consumption).
      And it’s a few years out of date.
      Seems like Apple silicon is the winner (and will probably continue to be).
      The Xeon that beats the rpi4 for GFLOPS/watt is an e5v3, which was launched in 2013 and EOL in 2021.
      So there will absolutely be some new Xeon CPUs that will perform better.

      However, for a $50 device, it’s probably the best GFLOPS/watt/$ from what little empirical data I can find