• Cosmoooooooo@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Every single one of you idiots is fine with paying extra to access a free service. VPN! VPN! Gotta have a VPN to fool everyone!

    You didn’t need a VPN before, because religious nazis have to control every single fucking thing. Control that porn! Control that “R” rated movie! Control those words in songs! Control the words in books! All religious movements.

    Stop supporting religions, you stupid fucks. Requring a VPN is just saying that poor people don’t get free porn, because they can’t afford a VPN. Which is yet another thing that religious dickheads do.

    If you’re religious - FUCK YOU!

    • biofaust@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Finally, I found another one like me. Prepare for a shower of shit in the comments, as most people here defend religion strenously.

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          It kind of is to some extent. Believing stories like this requires a certain degree of ignorance.

          • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
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            There is a difference between intellectual intelligence and emotional. People have needs that intellectual responses don’t satisfy such as “what happens to us after death?”, “how do I deal with the loss of a loved one?”, “does anyone care about me?”, “is there more to the universe than just random chance?”, etc.

            • theherk@lemmy.world
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              I get that. And believies can’t be based on reason. They’re just there. But it does generally require the ignoring of facts about the world around us. Like the same thing happens after death as before birth. You deal with loss by grieving. I don’t think they’re stupid, just regularly ignoring the simple answers to those questions.

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          But they gotta save us from eternal damnation, it’s for our own good, we don’t know any better (/s if it’s really needed)

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          No, the problem is accepting uncritically anything that comes from a self-defined leader, and, even in the absence of that, accepting that any critical input in a social system should come from people that have compromised on logic and reason at some level.

    • the_tab_key@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      I was with you until the last sentence. As someone who is not religious in the slightest, I have no problem with people being religious as long as it’s not forced in me.

      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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        Pretty much a default that religion, given the opportunity, will seek to push its rules and values on others. Doesn’t matter if it’s a medicine man or someone sitting on the local school board. I don’t have a problem with religious people in principle either, the problem is that even if you do meet a decent couple of people who appear to keep their religion to themselves there’s hundreds of thousands in their “club” that are going to fuck with things. Kinda like being in the republican party - even if they’re decent people, aren’t bootlickers, aren’t homophobes, etc… they still vote for, support, and associate with a group that does a lot of shitty things.

      • tempest@lemmy.ca
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        Religions have yet to prove to me they are not just another tribal group that wants control with extra steps.

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            I’m saying there isn’t a religion that doesn’t force it’s shit on people.

            So basically you’re fine with supporting things that hurt others just so long as you’re left alone.

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        The problem is that by its very existence and prevalence you have to contend with religion’s bullshit effecting your life.

        So honestly you should be against people being religious and try and discourage it. Though yeah its not super helpful to look at individual religious people and hate them openly. That’s a good way to just harden them right back against you.

    • Jason2357@lemmy.ca
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      4 days ago

      The big downsides are:

      1. Yet another Internet tax on the poor
      2. Everyone gets worse internet
      3. Most people are woefully unprepared to shop for a VPN from a reputable provider, meaning most people are going to end up subjected to even more surveillance and potentially attacks on their devices.
      4. Most people also are not prepared to manage when to and not-to use it, so will get slower internet all of the time.
      5. This will create lists of VPN users at both the ISPs and the VPN companies that will be usable by later christo-fascist governments.
      6. This will ultimately get laws passed against consumer-facing VPN services, making it harder for people to protect themselves from other attacks.
      7. More honey-pot VPN services will start up to support that list-gathering for future christo-fascist governments looking to build dossiers on as many people as possible.

      I could go on and on. And nothing about the above has anything to do with porn.

    • DupaCycki@lemmy.world
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      There is an important distinction between being religious and supporting organized churches. ‘Religious people’ aren’t any more of a threat to you than gay people are. Churches, particularly the Catholic Church in Christianity, that don’t even follow their religion’s teachings, are the problem.

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        You don’t need an organized group to have people who compromised on logic forcing their views on others. Sure, an organized group can be more efficient, but it is also more visible as a threat.

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      Well there is sth with hamsters.

      However lots of the old porn websites are bought by pornhub. And via some weird business shit even nutaku is part of pornhub.

      So you have an almost monopoly here.

      All the other sites are much more shady and can not be used without an adblocker (I know everyone should already have one, but most people don’t)

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      I’m pretty sure PornHub is just the most well-known example and they happen to own something like 5 others of the top ten most visited porn sites on the net.

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    4 days ago

    looking to ditch hotmail after 25 years, noticed proton also offers vpn, may as well get that, i live in a red state

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      Proton, Mullvad, PIA, are a few decent options. Be careful about anything that isn’t widely trusted by the community as there are so many un-trustworthy providers out there that are basically shilling old-school spyware/malware. Also, for getting decent performance, they should also be using a modern protocol like wireguard underneath, not something like OpenVPN or L2TP or something like that. You will want port-forwarding if you use it for torrents, and that narrows it down extremely.

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    The key with a VPN is to buy long term. I got a black friday deal for Proton last year that comes out to two dollars and pennies a month.

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    If VPNs get outlawed for some reason in AZ, Tor is another option. Make sure you download it from their site sonce there are fake Tor apps in the playstores

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      You’ll probably be unable to use it for major sites due to how much it’s blocked due to abuse coming through Tor exit nodes.

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        It’s particularly useful for doing research, as most major websites, that don’t need accounts, work well enough (you will get CloudFlare Captchas). So research your VPN with tor browser, then use your commercial VPN to log in to social media sites that block logging in from tor, or watch your video content that will be too slow over tor. Both tools have a use.