• Tyra@lemmy.ml
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    Good! I‘m grateful that the CCP is stepping in where the West is ignorant. Thanks to heavy lobbying by fossil fuels and car industries we would never have affordable cars in Europe without China. Thank you Xi Jinping for saving the climate 🙏

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      LOOOOOLOLOLOL have you looked at China’s greenhouse gas contributions lately? They don’t give a fuck about the climate, they’re just trying to drive other countries out of the market.

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          That’s because they’re also heavily subsidizing that industry out of self-interest. That’s the “emerging markets” I mentioned above.

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            Which sounds like a good idea for everybody. Maybe other countries should do the same thing.

            I’m no fan of West Taiwan but they’re doing a lot more to decarbonize than most other major economies.

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              Like always, it’s a great idea, right up until China jacks up the prices after they’ve driven out all the competition and common people can’t buy them anymore.

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                  I think you may have glossed over the bit about jacking up prices. By then other countries be decades behind in development, not to mention competing with slave wages. There’s no way. If there was, they wouldn’t be doing it. CCP isn’t doing this for the environment, they expect payback.

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                    So the Chinese tech will still be cheaper.

                    Gee, maybe sending almost all our manufacturing to another country was a stupid fucking idea

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            Oh no, a country acts out of self-interest! A concept that is completely foreign to the West 😱 At least their “self-interest“ has cheaper EVs for the rest of the world as a result. What are the coeffects of the US defending their self-interests? Rise in facism? Another genocide?

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              You’re moving the goalposts. You were literally thanking Xi for “saving the climate”.

              Once again, I am not having a pissing match about which country is better, I am discussing the success of electric vehicles from China.

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                  At least their “self-interest“ has cheaper EVs for the rest of the world as a result.

                  It cannot be both. Either:

                  1. CCP is subsidizing EVs to “save the climate” and they will stay cheap and subsidized forever because the communist dictator is actually just a totally super nice guy who cares about the global climate.

                  2. CCP is subsidizing EVs to dominate the global market, after which prices will go sky high and economies around the world (including yours) will suffer, because they’ve driven out all of the competition.

                  Which one do you think it is?