• Mikina@programming.dev
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    8 months ago

    I admit I’m kinda disappointed. He pulled out almost perfect assassination that looked well thought out, managed to get away with only a few hickups in his plan as far as his face is considered, and then walks around with a murder weapon and a manifesto in his bag? Shame, really. All he needed was to lay low for a while, grow a beard and he’d probably be OK.

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      I almost want to believe this guy saw how similar he was to the photos and how famous the shooter was getting and decided to take the fall by wandering around in public with some incriminating circumstantial evidence until someone reported him so he could take the credit.

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      You don’t understand.

      The fact that he wrote a manifesto meant he wanted to get caught. The taking the murder weapon and the manifesto to the McDonald’s was his way of saying he had gotten bored waiting for the cops to catch him. He pretty much turned himself in.

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      8 months ago

      The gun is planted. They just found a crazy guy in order to convince everyone that they actually found the culprit.

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        To my knowledge, he claimed specifically the money in his bag was planted. Specifically they said there was US and foreign cash in his bag. The fact that Luigi is denying the cash but admitting to the gun and manifesto. To me I think he knew he was going down… but I would be far from supprised if the money was planted either to raise it up to 1st degree murder… or while I’m very far from legally qualified… if they could try and claim he was doing a job for an enemy of the US, could they buypass the trial?

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        8 months ago

        I find that kind of unlikely. If they wanted to frame someone just to have a killer, they wouldn’t be talking about a “3D printed ghost gun”, but just use a regular gun. I, for one, haven’t known that it’s possible to 3D print a pretty well working, and silenced, gun. And that might inspire someone - acquiring weapons is the harder part of any such murder, assuming you don’t want to get caught, and the fact that you can get it without anyone knowing about it makes it way easier.

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          They know the guy is a engineer. They came up with the 3D printed gun because it fits with the character, and gives politician an excuse to ban 3D printers all together, “for our safety!”.

          I’m speculating and being a conspiracy theory, but in theory this could make sense. Nobody will ever find out the truth, I’m afraid.

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          People misunderstand 3d printed guns. We use mostly normal gun parts bought anywhere, but legally the pistol handle is considered the gun, and the most popular commercial ones have been plastic for decades. So 3d print that glock frame and put a glock slide on it and you’ve got a cheap glock (and outside of like 3 States, that’s totally legal).

          There’s fairly large 3d printing gun communities, mostly because it’s just fun to build things.

          3d printed silencers are much more rare / fragile because those are illegal to make without ATF approval and silencers need to withstand heat and pressure, so the typical plastic can’t withstand prolonged use.

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        If they did that and the real killer killed again, what would that achieve? Or is this a one-and-done thing?

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          If they did that and the real killer killed again, what would that achieve?

          More dead CEOs, I guess. I’m down with that.

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            I doubt you will be when the costs of everything go up due to all the corporations hiring massive security teams.

            Something that doesn’t seem to occur to so many of you and something most of you have no response to. In fact, the only response I occasionally get is that it’s worth the cost, which seems to go against the whole reason for the assassination in the first place.

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              How much do you think it costs to hire a security detail? I’m pretty sure security for the entire C-suite would be a tiny drop in the bucket for most mega-corporations.

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      Maybe plotting how to dispose of it, perhaps extra paranoid with how much he blew up. Unfortunately all the memes of him probably helped spread the search for him. Not everyone who saw a meme agreed with his actions.

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        It was a ghost gun, he could have thrown it into any ditch and not have it traced back to him.

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          He’d probably be ditching more than just that. He could be caught on a security camera disposing of it which could give further clues. He may also had no intention of disposal and intended to keep the firearm.

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            There are not security cameras all the way.

            He may also had no intention of disposal

            The whole point of a ghost gun is to be able to throw it away and have it not traced back to you.

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              Private security footage could have caught him disposing, someone could have witnessess and grabbed another photo of him using his their cell phone. He could be worried about finger prints on the gun or other biological clues. And if a ghost gun is so untraceable, keeping it after a crime shouldn’t be proof, because how do you prove it was this ghost gun used in the crime? He could claim he just keeps it for self defense or was interested in how far 3D printed tech has come

              He could be planning another assassination or desire to keep the weapon for self defense purposes. I think you are downplaying the parannoia that would come with such a large scale manhunt accompanied with becoming an internet meme spreading your photo and awareness of your act over night. Paranoia makes you constantly think “but what if?” And that paranoia is even stronger in an extreme circumstance like this.

              The fact is, we may never know why he kept it.

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      In other threads, people have suggested that he might be carrying the manifesto in case he was shot and killed if/when arrested.

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    You know, is said he worked UI at Firaxia from '15 to '17, which first made me think he worked on Civ VI, but then more likely Xcom Chimera Squad?

    You don’t get that job without having some interest in games. I hope it turns out he actually played Assassin’s Creed and is intentionally pulling an Ezio look, smile and all.

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    Is he repped yet? If not and anyone knows how to get in touch with his people please contact me. I have a line on a few free attorneys that take cases of this magnitude.

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      Nice nothing better than a free lawyer off the internet to defend you in a murder case. I can’t imagine that ever going wrong.

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        Hey genius… Ben Crump is a free lawyer off the internet. Maybe instead of shooting down offers to help you take your head out of your ass.

        Any paid Manhattan attorney has more in common with the CEO. This guy needs a real street fighter. Not some prissy bitch.

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      He comes from money, he won’t be needing free legal help.

      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp9nxee2r0do

      "He attended a private, all-boys high school in Baltimore, called the Gilman School, according to school officials. Mr Mangione was named as the valedictorian, which is usually the student with the highest academic achievements in a class.

      He comes from a prominent family in the Baltimore area whose businesses include a country club and nursing homes, according to local media.

      He is reportedly the cousin of Republican state lawmaker Nino Mangione."

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    8 months ago

    Problem solving. Maybe we shouldn’t have pushed STEM so hard to the underpaid, unemployed, underinsured masses.

    -Somebody with the wherewithal probably

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    Lemmy went from being outraged at the elections to becoming un ironical Unabomber stans so fast that I didn’t even realized it

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      I don’t think it’s fair to liken luigi to the unibomber. Ignoring that his methods were also crazy. The biggest thing to point out on the unibomber is his victims were every day people. Obviously his method was made with collateral damage as a high possibility.

      Luigi, his political leanings seem to be all over the place. But at the end of the day his only victim, was someone who inarguably made choices knowing they would result in the deaths of many people, and bankrupt and ruin the lives of many more.

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        Yeah I can’t help but feel from everything I read he’s a bit of a STEMcel, but hating health insurance companies is one thing that unites almost all Americans.

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          The people shooting Trump would maybe have a 10% approval rating if they succeeded. This healthcare CEO got the whole working class celebrating his deposal. It is truly impressive.

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        Dude, what tells you he “loved” the Unabomber? All I’ve seen is a five-paragraph review of his book of which three paragraphs were a quote.