If we didn’t already have the perfect option that is bitwarden I would probably go for this. But there’s really no reason to switch away from bitwarden to this. It’s open source, gets regularly publicly audited, and nothing ever leaves your device unencrypted. So even if they had their data center broken into and all machines stolen physically I wouldn’t have to worry about my passwords
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To add onto what Andromxda said, SimpleLogin is included with your Proton account (might be paid accounts only).
Use it with a custom domain - it’s amazing and if Proton Mail ever shuts down you won’t have to migrate any of your logins because they’re already on your own domain.
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I’m very skeptical about online cloud-based password managers. I don’t trust that at all. I still prefer to use a local off-line password manager like KeePassXC.
What is your threatmodel here?
The problem for me with completely self hosting it is that it’ll be relatively hard to get my backup, availability and sync requirements satisfied without a lot of effort.
Whereas I trust encryption in theory enough to hand my encrypted data to anyone. If the implementation is properly audited then I also trust that.
Most of my passwords are for accounts with 2fa anyway so even if both the storage leak and the encryption turn out to be subpar my threatmodel is still not violated.
If self-hosting makes you feel better about it, Vaultwarden exists for the Bitwarden client.
Damn, I thought for some unknown ungodly reason Valve implemented something like game pass for Proton.
How is this better than the alternatives?
It‘s probably not but if you are in their ecosystem you might as well use it.
An alternative is to keep your eggs somewhat separated so that you don’t end up in a locked in situation if their services deteriorate over the years, giving you an easier escape in that scenario.
I’m in their ecosystem but specifically don’t use it, as it seems extraordinarily unsafe to put my passwords behind the same authentication that I use just to check my email.
If you have a paid plan you can generate SimpleLogin aliases directly when generating a login on a webpage. It’s a very nice feature.
Bitwarden also integrates SimpleLogin for one-click alias generation.
I didn’t know that! Although I don’t pay for SL, I get it as part of my Proton sub.
Yes, me too. I was pointing out that SL can be used without Proton Pass.
One thing protonpass does better then the competition is exporting your passkeys that is generated within it. AFAIK, bitwarden supports creating and authenticating with passkeys, but you cannot export them.
If it’s as bad as their VPN app for Linux hard pass.
Just use wireguard directly, no need for an app
I do use wireguard. Mostly because the proton app for linux is so bad.
Look into how they have you setup port forwarding on linux using the official app. They want you to open a terminal and keep a looped script running as long as you are using it.
Not only that but when I was testing it the script would start erroring out after about 5 min requiring a restart.
I know, I use port forwarding. I simply improved the script for my needs and put it in a systemd service. It’s been working well for some time now.
Also, most other providers don’t allow port forwarding at all. Proton is being nice here.
Right you can use a custom script as a service to make it do what it’s supposed to do. but for an app that’s for an advertised feature of a paid service it’s a complete shit show.
non free