Members of the software developer community have reported deleting or altering their posts to prevent them from being used by OpenAI.
People cheering on SOs demise don’t realize what we’re losing.
Support is moving to discord which sucks massive ass. Asking the same question over and over, hoping somone is around to help.
It sucks.
I never understood the move to synchronous communication for asynchronous questions. The ephemeral nature of discord is really a PITA. It’s like using IRC for a FAQ.
Once upon a time, they stepped forth from the forests of IRC, but back into those dark woods they then one day marched.
Discord is straight up unwelcome on corporate networks.
I give it a few months before the Community tier servers’ data is dumped and sold to an AI model company.
So four months til GPT starts calling everyone “kitten”
I just got a ping the other day from a Discord server that said they’d finished moving their support onto a forum on their website specifically because Discord’s forum feature is terrible.
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I support the take over. People thinking that they can pick and choose who makes money and how are fooling themselves. The developer who wants all his IP protected so he can make money is upset that a larger entity is also making money is honestly tough fucking shit. Either go back to the origins of the internet napster days or shut the fuck up and live with what we created. There isn’t any middle ground. Its only going to get worse unless you make this place hostile to people building walls and stealing all the data for themselves.
I feel so bad for the long term contributors :/
The only good thing I could think off, is that someone is going to create a defederated stackoverflow alternative?
Or something similar, to bring back real human interaction…
If this wasn’t enough, This will probably raise war against corporated AI.
It won’t. Some people will scream bloody murder, most people will ignore it.
SO was in decline anyway. Most answers you’ll find are several years old and outdated, because some idiot thought the new ones are duplicates.
So now a few people will leave, the spamming idiots will keep spamming the platform with low effort nonsensical answers and its relevance will dwindle just a bit faster.
Look at Reddit. Last year there was a huge outrage and today it’s pretty much the same as before.
Most people don’t care. Most people feel so powerless, that they’ll accept every privacy scandal, every exploitive business strategy, every sellout of their platform.
Is Reddit pretty much the same? From my limited perspective, a lot of the genuine contributors left, quietly or otherwise. I’ve found it much more difficult to have an interesting discussion on there since the API debacle. Most of Reddit was already lurkers and bots, so all it took was a significant proportion of the tiny minority of quality contributors to take their time elsewhere for reddit to become a complete dumpster fire.
Anecdotally, pretty much every time I’m searching for information on reddit a number of comments are redacted or even the op is deleted. The only reason I didn’t purge my comments is in case someone might find them helpful.
I have all my deleted comments in a csv (with context links), which I plan on fine-tuning an LLM with just for fun. I guess if there’s a platform that’ll accept it, I’d be happy to upload it. Mostly I wanted to make sure the info remains free for everyone, including AI researchers.
Hugging Face is the usual platform for sharing datasets and models.
Subs that I go on that used to get hundreds or thousands of comments now are lucky to reach 50 or so.
Reddit is still pretty useful, but it will become less and less relevant as contributors leave, just like StackOverflow did. Side note: are contributors actually leaving Reddit? People keep saying that’s happening, but I don’t really see it…maybe it’s very slow? Might depend heavily on the subreddit too.
I don’t have numbers, but I did. Took Redact 9 hours to overwrite & delete the 17,000 comments on my 17-year-old account. But watching them scroll by, most weren’t really worth keeping. I saw several 15+ year-old active accounts do the same before I left.
SO was in decline anyway. Most answers you’ll find are several years old and outdated, because some idiot thought the new ones are duplicates.
There’s been a new thing (for the past two years anyways) where some power tripping user would edit the highest rated answer, causing new users to fail to get recognition.
So a new user answers a old question with the latest way to do something based on new language specs… And they’d get 1-2 votes.
Why even contribute then?
That actually sounds like a good idea. Like Lemmy you have communities of common or popular languages like java or python which you can join and everyone there assists with questions. As it grows you might see a node for spring or flask get created for more niche discussions.
Why need another federated protocol, Lemmy should be more than plenty
I hate 2024
Oh, look, it’s Reddit all over again.
(Yes, yes, different reason. Same user response, though.)
Time to edit all my answers :)
I did on Friday and within 5 mins they suspended me and reverted them all. I knew they would so I didn’t care - I just did it so they’d see as many unhappy users as possible.
I then deleted my account of over 10 years with over 50k reputation. Fuck stackoverflow.
Same reason for me. Take some of their time and say fuck you to them. But I will do crippling edits by single characters in one month time. I have time.
I’d assume they would provide a backup from before the announcement for the training.
God forbid someone get a JavaScript snippet that uses var instead of let or const.
time for users to shred their comments and posts
Okay but why? It’s not like it’s personal Data or something. I don’t get why people are mad ._.
EDIT: Ofcourse you can downvote me but I’d really like an answer, tho. The article is not very clear about this.
Irc: I ain’t dead yet bitch! Discord is fucking awful for dev and search.
Do people still use stack overflow? I feel like their days are numbered.
Well, when good documentation is available it isn’t necessary but good documentation is not always available. And it can still be helpful with niche issues 🤷
I mean, good documentation + LLM = Stack overflow is 100% obsolete
Why else would they speed run enshitification?
To make money. If user engagement drops, revenue drops. The existing content is the only real asset this company has.
Nope, Documentation + LLM misses the big chunk what we call human errors, commonly x y problems, LLM are good until you need to get deep then they start giving surface level answer it’s possible to point them toward the right direction by refining but at that point i would prefer reading Documentation.
