Fitzgerald’s is a rare case where an official employed by the state’s top law enforcement and legal office has been accused of making and distributing AI CSAM, although some cops have been arrested for the crime. Earlier this year, a Pennsylvania cop was arrested for making AI porn from photos on driver’s licenses, and more recently in Korea, a police officer was arrested for making AI porn, including CSAM, The Korea Times reported.

In New Jersey, the deputy attorney general has been charged with possession of CSAM, dissemination of photos or film of CSAM, and “criminal use of a communication facility,” detectives said.

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    I have made multiple videos lately intended to bring more visibility to the fact that American tech companies, and their models, are either being used to generate CSAM or promote people internationally who do, so seeing this headline makes my morning.

    I personally don’t care if it was produced artificially or not. These sick fucks need to be imprisoned and thrown in gen pop.

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      The companies that provide the bots should also be punished somehow. It’s clear they either don’t have any safeguards in place or the ones they have are insufficient.

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        Right, so punish every company that make a product.
        After all a company who make knives do not put any safeguards in place to avoid one of their knife if used to kill someone.
        Or a telcom do not put any safeguards in place to avoid someone use a phone line to harass someonelse.
        Or a car company since they do not put any safeguard in place to avoid that one of their car is used for a robbery.

        Or [any company] since they do not put any safeguard in place to avoid that one of their product is used to [commit a crime]

        Sounds better ?

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        100%

        Right now the only real accountability for these companies is when they get sued or put on blast enough on social media. I think that will eventually change, but it won’t happen due to the legal system in the US. It’ll happen because some random country put their foot down internationally.

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      The CSAM was not “produced artificially”, but rather trained on actual abuse images, with real victims.

      Each “artificial image” is a kaleidoscope of a thousand children being raped.

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      I personally don’t care if it was produced artificially or not. These sick fucks need to be imprisoned and thrown in gen pop.

      If it’s produced artificially, then he hasn’t done any ill to a living person. He has polluted the Web, but in doing that has reduced the demand for non-artificial CSAM. It’s like “posting goatse in Facebook” level of crime at best.

      And you are calling for him to be imprisoned for being a “sick fuck”, that is, for thought crime caused by mental illness.

      Other than the latter being a circumstance, thought crimes are not a thing for any decent person, AFAIR.

      Otherwise I’d want for sick fucks like you not understanding that a crime is a violation of someone else’s rights to be preventively imprisoned. That at least fits said condition.

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        It’s like “posting goatse in Facebook” level of crime at best.

        Wtf no, this is far worse! Goatse, afaik, was photographed and published consensually. Artificial CSAM is constructed from real CSAM, to the point that real CSAM victims have sued people who generated material resembling the victim.

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          Artificial CSAM is constructed from real CSAM,

          I would not be that sure. 30 years ago it was possible to create photorealistics images with renderes (ok, you needed days of rendering probably)

          It was possible to create fake xxx images combining the image of the face of a person (famous actor/actress, common guy/girl) with a body from a image scanned from a xxx magazine in a way that it looks like an original image (there were entire subgroups on Usenet dedicated to this).

          I bet any decent AI image creator could now do way better than what was done by hand 30 years ago.

          to the point that real CSAM victims have sued people who generated material resembling the victim.

          Also nothing new. Do you know the origin of the “Every protagonists of this story is a finctional charaters and [blah, blah blah]” you see at the end of every movie ? Basically same problem you cite.

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          No, it’s not necessarily constructed from real CSAM. It can be constructed from real photos of children and real porn.

          Anyway, when saying that someone should be jailed, you should consider all the main possibilities.

          EDIT: And when you have real porn with adults, hentai with supposed adults and anime with children, that might be good enough to generate something that’s technically like generated CSAM, even if the quality might not be too good. Anyway, I’m not very well-versed on quality of CSAM.

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        Otherwise I’d want for sick fucks like you not understanding that a crime is a violation of someone else’s rights…

        You mean like the right to not have your likeness fed into an algorithm and assembled into pornographic content without your consent? Or does having your image laundered by an LLM somehow magically make that ok?

        What the fuck is wrong with you?

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          You mean like the right to not have your likeness fed into an algorithm and assembled into pornographic content without your consent?

          What you are describing here is just a sexual fantasy.
          It could be debatable that someone cannot imagine to have sex with the hot actress of the day (or the hot colleague) or to create a fake nude image of her to fantasize on, without harming in any way the object of his fantasy.

          Or does having your image laundered by an LLM somehow magically make that ok?

          It depends. How do you consider a personal sexual fantasy involving other people ?

          That said, since the problem is the CSAM image in itself, as it should be, punish who create and distribute the images (like the real ones), not the platform/tool used to create them.
          Else you should also punish who build the camera used to take the real images, don’t you think ? (btw, you would never be able to punish someone who draw a CSAM image and keep it for itself, like you would be never be able to punish who create a fake image of the hot actress and keep it for itself, without violating his privacy)

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          Why necessarily “your likeness”? And honestly yes, everyone has the right to draw whatever they want, just presenting it as real or using for bullying campaigns should be a crime.

          Because those are crossing someone’s personal borders, while doing something that doesn’t concern them at all - is not.

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      Maybe this is the wrong post to start a comment with

      I have made multiple videos lately

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        You’re welcome to downvote me if you think so, but I assure you, my videos are tech critiques and not CSAM.