Exit polls have the far-right AfD leading the Social Democrats in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania and the Left Party ahead in Berlin. Merz referred to the outcome as “a disaster”. DW has more.

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    I’m against all neo-naszis, but he and his crony capitalism ensured the Nazis found open ears wanting anti-establishment messages at any cost.

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      And yet MV gets a red-red-green government by the looks of it. „Winning“ an election doesn‘t actually mean much these days it seems. At least according to mainstream media. Most voters decided against Nazis but man there are way too many fascists around these days.

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        You are right, but just look at what happened here in Italy.
        To not let the Right win, the Left put together everyone else and once they won the elections they were stuck in their decision process because there are so many voices wanting something different that they cannot decide on nothing, so next election they lost bad.

        So yes, winning the election does not means you will govern but the alternative could be even worse: you are not able to do anything and when you inevitably fail you have served your opponent a perfect way to win.
        Here in Italy most of the people who voted for the Right did it because the only thing that come out the Left was something “the Right (meaning, Giorgia Meloni) should not be allowed to do this and that”, nothing about what the Left would have done.
        And the worst thing is that they are doing it again.

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      But why goes

      Let’s stick it to the establishment with hate and rage

      harder than

      Let’s stick it to the establishment with love and compassion

      ? Plenty of options to challenge the establishment with progressive parties which would actually help people, who suffer from current politics.

      I’ll never understand that.

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          But…you don’t have to have it. Options are basically

          • Your life stays shit (or probably gets shittier), but some other people’s life get (more) shittier

          or

          • We make your life and that of a lot of other people better.

          Why choose the former?

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            This isn’t about logic - fascists don’t elect themselves by making people understand about what’s going on around them.

            They elect themselves by telling lies on how they will improve things for you, while claiming the other side will/is doing the opposite, claiming them as untrustworthy, corrupt, or morally backwards despite being themselves the snakes in the house.

            The predator never gets to eat when they show their teeth.

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            Life being shit also diminishes your ability to think rationally. And AfD does promise to make their life better (by getting rid of the immigrants), you and I know they are lying and spreading hate and are just there to enrich themselves. But to desperate people that can be their only hope.

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            Some people seem to believe it to be a zero-sum situation. In order for their life to improve, someone elses has to become worse. That’s why the hateful messages of the far right AFD fall on fertile ground.

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            my mama once told me, “pour hope in one hand and take a shit in the other, see which hand fills up faster.”

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            Propaganda, News Media telling you second option is literal hell, other parties picking up the talking point that someone else’s life is too good, so yours is bad and therefore legitimizing it. Some people are also just stupid.

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        Burning everything down right now feels better than putting in the work to build something up over a longer period of time.