I’ve just watched the video. I find it pretty outrageous. The word about it should spread.

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    Yeah, this is corporate bullshit. However…

    Minecraft is a rare bird that lets you download every single public release (that was archived) all the way back to the original test builds. I recently re-downloaded 1.14 to play a unique seed that only loads all the features correctly on that version.

    And when you play Minecraft, you download the entire game as a .jar file to your computer and it stays there, even if you upgrade to a later version. There are third-party launchers that let you load those .jars and play without logging into anything.

    So, it’s up to you whether or not you tow the company line and use a Microsoft account and the official launcher or just download some fan-made software and run the old versions forever.

    I recommend anyone who lost their Mojang account to just dig out the latest version downloaded to their computer and run it through a custom launcher, or look up instructions on running the game without a launcher.

    (This only applies to the Java version of the game, but that’s the best version anyway because of features and custom mods. Playing roms of the console/mobile games requires modding the appropriate system and that’s a lot more involved.)

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    Ah the joys of software as a service.

    I do wish I could say it will pass, but the ability to sell someone something they already purchased is the holy grail of sales. This isn’t going to go away, and the EULAs you agree to ensure that it is entirely legal.

    The only way to fight back is to vote with your wallet - sadly in monopolies that isn’t really an option.

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      2 years ago

      We need more FOSS. If our governments weren’t utterly captured we could publicly fund worthwhile projects.

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    I’ll tell ya more, if you read hardware license agreements then you know that even with hardware you don’t “own” anything, you just bought license to temporarily use it, i was shocked back in the day when i read license agreement on my iPad 4 in 2013, there was point about it, that i don’t own but only bought temporary rights to use it

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      I see people going “this is what you get for buying digital”, and that’s what they are not seeing. This is not about digital being more unreliable than physical. This is an attack at the concept of customer ownership itself.

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        Preach brother, always has been, as they trying to push “you won’t own anything and be happy” we thought it was a joke, but surprise, these corporations literary want to build their cities, own all the property and have wage/rent slavery and neofeudalism

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        Yes, i don’t know if they changed anything, but in high school I’ve read license agreement of my iPad 4 and was shocked

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    I got locked out of my now 8+ year old account because I had set it up with an old ISP provided email which has since been deactivated. I can’t migrate because I have to verify with the email and I can’t change the email without setting up security questions, which also requires the email. Support can do nothing.

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      i used a Gmail account mostly for some videogames services but Google locked me out of that account after several years because i didn’t provide a phone number for it after a few years and i refused to… So a lot of my old game accounts can’t be accessed anymore…

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        That’s also why i’m considering wheather it is better to use an email provider or maybe use your own domain for that purpouse… Maybe the combination of both could be the best bet (by that i mean using an email provider like proton mail and using it with your own domain so you can control the domain if anything goes wrong).

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    I had an old Alpha account. I missed the migration window out of a mix of laziness and not really checking my email.

    Surely this cannot be legal and all this shit about forced arbitration cannot hold up in a British court?

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      I never even received an email. I haven’t touched Minecraft in years, probably never would have again, but my daughter is getting into it and I thought it would be fun to play with her. I found out about the migration when trying to troubleshoot why I couldn’t log in.

      I tried to contact support and they told me that they had “widely communicated the migration through email and social media” and that because I had missed the migration window, I would simply have to buy a new copy. I double and triple checked. No emails regarding the migration and I’m not on social media.

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      It shouldn’t be, but fighting Microsoft in court would be hellish, and not even a guaranteed win given how much undue influence corporations have over the justice system and politicians.

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      The “purchase” agreement probably says that they can terminate the license for any reason at any time. If you bought the game years ago I suspect they are actually fine to revoke access. See for example EA and other shit game companies that have taken down games when they take the online DRM servers offline.

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        Yeah fun fact I actually looked this up a few days ago in the wayback machine because I own a beta account. Back then it was just Notch selling the game and the “agreement” if you can call it that on the site basically just said “you own the game forever, no drm”.

        I’m not a lawyer or anything but I suspect that unless they somehow tricked users of old mojang account to agree to Microsoft TOS after the purchase of Mojang what Microsoft did may be very legally questionable. But the main issue is who is gonna sue them over 20 bucks. They know they can get away with it

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    I migrated and they locked my new account. Now they’re essentially extorting my phone number

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    They have stolen mine as well. It was a nice game, but it was not worth getting a Microsoft account for it.