They should voice their concerns to their government.
Fuck Russia. And fuck the Russians that are against the war now that it’s affecting them.
They could apparently ignore civilians being murdered in the street, but since they’re slightly inconvenienced it suddenly becomes an issue. Absolute trash people.
Yeah look how different they are from the US Americans.
Thus is not at all how it is going with Iran.
Did I make that point or are you just talking out of your tankie ass?
My point is that humans are the same everywhere. It is easy to act like we would do it differently when we are not in the same situation.
Ah so you agree with me then.
I don’t think so because woulnd’t that mean “fuck everyone”?
I rather want to say: All humans have the capacity for evil under the wrong circumstances. So the problem are the broken systems that steer people.
In other words: Fuck the system.
Once again I didn’t say fuck everyone. I said fuck those Russians that put human suffering below a slight inconvenience to them.
I guess a good chunk of the pro-war ones are probably dead by now.
It seems to be a propaganda news
Fatigued by a war that officially doesn’t exist in Russia…
The war can end in the next hour if Russia decides to piss off behind their internationally recognised borders, still leaving them with more land than they’ll ever need.
Putin can’t back down. His strongman image wouldn’t survive it, and I’m pretty sure the rest of him wouldn’t either. He’ll have to be dragged out of this war kicking and screaming, and his people realising that somehow, after all this time, Ukraine still has options to escalate, is a chunky chip off that facade of strength.
That argument never convinces me. Look at Trump: he started a war and now ended up with a deal that is worse than before. Yet that doesn’t stop him of spinning that as a great success. He “stopped Iran that was just about to get nuclear weapons”, or whatever he’ll say to make it look good.
Same goes with Putin. He survived starting this war and ruining his country, he’ll survive stopping it, by making something up that can be told as a success. For example: “we made sure the Russian people in these areas are safe. Now we invite them to get to safety in Mother Russia and live a peaceful life. We protect our people”. Or whatever he seems fit. He can spin it however he likes, they’ll follow.
You may have a point.
I do think the systems of government and balances of power are different than the US, and Trump hasn’t had the same amount of time to solidify a personal regime centered on himself (and hopefully never will). He also hasn’t been waging a war that doesn’t exist for quite as long, and has a better track record with “special operations”.
If Trump, without changing the current system, sent the US down a road to a similar kind of trouble, the “democratic” mechanisms (or rather, the checks and balances that have let him run unchecked so far) would presumably intervene on behalf of the donor class before it got to the point Russia is at now. Either they’d get him to back off, or their puppets would suddenly find dirt and the political will to impeach, charge and remove him from office.
My suspicion (and I may well be wrong) is that Putin has dug his control so deep that nobody dares to defy him while his image holds, because everyone would be worried about becoming an example. There’s a certain psychology to power, where appearing powerful becomes self-fulfilling: People get the impression that others obey the leader, so they don’t dare to be the odd one out, their obedience further adding to the image of power.
If the tensions his tyranny has caused rise and that impression of him being in control starts cracking, e.g. because he has to make concessions in negotiations or runs noticeably low on resources to enforce his will, that might change. The concern here isn’t so much the common people as the other political players he’s kept down so far. I don’t know their motives and concerns, but he wouldn’t be the first ruler toppled by former cronies sensing weakness.
But maybe you’re right and he’ll somehow manage to save face. I don’t really care about being right here. I just hope for peace, sooner rather than later, for the sake of all humans involved.
This bloodshed should never have started in the first place, let alone gone on this long, and it’s a waste of lives, resources and time that could have been spent on better pursuits than the ambitions of a violent megalomaniac.
I absolutely get what you’re saying and there’s a lot of truth in it, imo.
However, whenever I stumble across the sentiment that Putin ‘cannot afford to look weak’ in order to survive, I can’t help but wonder how on earth he’s still president:
He led his country into a ‘3-day adventure’ that’s been ongoing for more than four years now - an end not at all in sight, on Crimea they have to pay 2,90€ per litre for fuel, if there’s some at all that is, while across the entire country, they wait in endless queues towards petrol stations. He wasted more than a million husbands, fathers, sons, friends of his people, leaving a gaping hole in an already troubled demographic development, the economy is only kept alive by defence spending, whereas the usual powerhouse of the company, the fossil-based energy sector is in shambles and Russia needs to import (!) fuel.
Summarising: he already is weak, unsuccessful and frail. If he really were that threatened by that, he’d been long gone. So I don’t buy it. He can end it whenever he pleases.
Not so fast!
What about reparation?
What about returning abducted people?Pissing off from anywhere in Ukraine (including Crimea ofc) is simply not enough.
Letting them off the hook this easy sends the message that anyone can invade random countries and in the worst case just doesn’t conquer any land.
They want the war to end now that is personally affecting them. Get fucked.
fuck them
Russia has a record population again?
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