• Kowowow@lemmy.ca
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        Oh that’s a great idea to use politicians to get past age checks assuming of course they don’t get butthurt enough to claim it’s full on fraud

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          You have to have the word Parody on it somewhere. Then it is not fraud. The thing looks so stupid anyways and has the security feature markings from my id anyways. I am not fooling a human.

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            Not sure what you mean by that.

            I’m just writing an email to oppose this, my email is not like the above poster. I am just laying out arguments why this is a bad solution and will not work.

            Which is what we’re seeing with kids drawing moustaches and borrowing IDs at will.

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    How about instead of trying every complicated stupid way to regulate users and especially children … you regulate and control companies and corporations instead.

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      Or, ya know, make parents take responsibility for their own children and monitor what they are doing online. If you don’t want your kids seeing or participating in things online then don’t give them unfettered access to smart phones and computers!

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        I kind fo agree and kind of don’t. I agree in that parents should take accountability for their children. That said, social media has been shown to be addictive and kids are frequently ahead of their parents technologically. One thing that could help is an education campaign that teaches parents how to effectively monitor their kid’s online activity. Parents need some help figuring out what tools to use and how to use them I think.

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          You are correct and I’m a little upset at myself that I left out the fact that educating parents should be something we put money and effort into as well.

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      13 days ago

      And who’s payroll campaign donations are the politicians that are pushing these policy coming from?

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    As someone who spent my formative days figuring out how to bypass early digital locks my school was putting in place to “protect us” … The system loses this game. Every time. You are taking kids with nothing but time, no apparent drawbacks, and everything to gain… And placing them against “good enough” implemented by people who could give two shits about it.

    This will continue to lose until they twist the knobs too tight and hit false positive central… And oops now the populace hates it. Control for thee is fine until its for me.

    Tale as old as technology itself.

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      Mine was simple, but great. IE was hidden/removed in our typing class, maybe 5th grade. I guessed you could type a www.domain.tld in Word and when you pressed space, got a clickable URL that was still tied to IE. I knew about the URL, but learned it would still open with IE hidden. 🤣🤣

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      Even with false positives it won’t change anything. It’s just a small group of people. It’s worth it to “save the children”. If “the system” rejects you, then you must be at fault. Maybe we can even sell a “Super ID Check”. Just a one time $200 fee and then the system will leave you alone. (For 3 years, then pay the fee again, but renewal is even faster this time.)

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        I’m not saying its going to happen quickly… But filtering in many forms has been tried in the past and they all died similarly. Some vocal group gets inconvenienced by it and then, under scrutiny, the blemishes get paraded out and the project dies a slow ugly death.

        The actual reason for the push right now is meta (among others) just want to wash their hands of the responsibility… And that aligns with some tech bros wanting to hoover up peoples ids and resell that info. The whole thing will sour once there’s a significant leak that ties risk into that bottom line and nobody will want to carry it.

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    People act as if it was a bug and not a feature. This was intended. After people sufficiently make fun of the current solution that everyone knows how easily it is broken, the next step is requiring both ID and face scan and comparing photo on ID with face scan. Congrats, privacy is removed completely. Every poster is now tied with real life identity.

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    We should get all of our advice from little kids. They have not yet been bound by knowing what is or isn’t possible. The meek shall inherit the earth.

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      We should get all of our advice from little kids.

      These articles tend to lean on click-baity “One Neat Trick” headlines, while disguising the more practical hit-or-miss reality of facial recognition software. Sometimes you can outsmart the computer. Sometimes it just fouls the system and fails out. Sometimes the system works exactly as intended.

      Little kids experiment around the edges of a system until they get bored or frustrated. In the aggregate, they can be very clever just through the number of permutations they try. Individually, your 12-year-old isn’t going to Hack The Internet reliably.

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    Today in: “Just let the parents parent.”

    It’s good to see a reminder that depending on the majority of parents to act in absence of real, tangible regulation is doomed to be a failure.

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    Is it legal to “verify” my age to be a minor? Would less of my information be collected?

    …not that any of it is accurate anyway.

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      Not for the people pushing for this Orwellian shit.

      Most people will just comply, and “most people” is who they want to spy on and control.

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    As I understand it, most adult content producers aren’t actually interested in having minors using their sites. It seems like the easiest thing to do would be to have them add some “Adult Material” flag in their metadata, and let consumers respond as they wish to that tag - whether that’s done through browser settings, router nannyware, or whatever.

    Is there a technical reason this isn’t what’s being pushed for? I’m sure there’s lobbying and “optics” reasons for not doing this, but is there any practical reason for not pursuing this, or something like it?

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      We already have multiple solutions for blocking children from websites that parents don’t want them to access and the companies providing those situations maintain their own databases of different types of content tagged so that parents can have some control over what is blocked and what is not. This stuff has existed since the 90s it’s nothing new. It requires parents taking the initiative though and really when we get down to it this is another, "but think of the children, " sort of situation where they are using child safety as cover for making it easier to collect biometric data of people online.