if they are so concerned about children, how about doing something about the mormon church and the fucking horrible crimes that are committed against women and children in it?
Nah they support that.
But spoofing a phone number and harassing me all day isn’t worth solutioning. This Gov. is not representing us.
The Biden admin was about to regulate data brokers but then Trump happened.
Yet another Biden failure! When will that guy stop causing all our problems?! Thanks Biden! /s
I’ve learned a little bit of multiple languages to answer the phone in a foreign language. It absolutely fucks with the scammer on the other end because they are expecting an English speaker.
I mostly ignore calls from unknown numbers, but if I ever answer any I do something similar, but I use gibberish.
“Hello sir, I’m calling to see if you are aware of the latest energy deals in your area?”
I respond with something like: ‘Ha felth malak nakufi parament, cheeshan bah farkone.’
I then get very animatedly exasperated with them if they can’t understand me.
‘BISHAN TA FALAF TOOSH? MAIR PUNAN TA FALAS!!! EDGEKA, EDGEKA MALA!!!’
I never end the call, always keep going until they do, which is often pretty quickly these days unfortunately, because I’ve started to kind of enjoy playing with them.
Occasionally if it’s clearly a scam call rather than a spam call and I have time, I’ll actually pretend to play along dumbly to see how long I can keep them on the line. All time record is 49 minutes during the pandemic lockdown (I was bored). The guy finally caught on and released a barrage of expletives and wished me death. It was awesome!
If you do anything OTHER than ignore them, your number gets marked as “active” and then sold to other scammers. I roll my eyes at the people who gleefully brag about all the ways they “fuck with spammers” without realizing that by simply answering the phone, they have already given them what they want. Sure, the low level worker on the phone (who might actually be a slave) might want you to fall for a scam and give them money, but the people running these call centers are perfectly fine if all they get is confirmation that you have an active number which can then be sold to other call centers.
Stop answering spam/scam calls.
More ways to control our lives and track our movements.
“Party of small government”.
Personally, I would stop using any site that did this. We all know nothing matters in this country but money. Companies stop making as much, they’ll get legislation changed.
I would bet my shoes Facebook or someone lobbied for this.
It’s easy to blame Mormons, but I think that bloc was more of a mark.
I find it so interesting that they will dance all the way around VPN’s, yet do nothing to make them actually illegal.
You can’t make VPNs illegal. There is a lot of infrastructure dependent on VPNs.
Why would you want VPNs to be illegal?
I don’t, but doing so would be the easiest solution to alot of the “problems” they have with online behavior.
All adult businesses moving out of Utah. A lot of other businesses too.
It seems like it’s just a matter of time until the US has it’s own red firewall.
Not just a US thing. EU is pushing for much more restrictive measures regarding mandatory ID registration. And it will be EU-wide for us. US will most likely be much better in that regard from 2027 onward, since only a few states seem to change things.
For now, They’re trying to do it federally as well.
The stupidity of these lawmakers is beyond wild. How the fuck is this real?
I have a similar idea, let’s prosecute the police when they fail to catch criminals and punish them instead. A killer got away? Death penalty for the police officer in charge. That will make the killers think twice!
Or even better, let’s prosecute politicians when their laws backfire and do more damage than good.
I bet you a dollar that all of them are technologically illiterate.
i mean, how are we defining tech illiteracy? they have heard of the twitter, okay?
Web services and websites should block all Utah IP addresses and redirect to page explaining that because they cannot tell who’s using a VPN, their only option is to block all of Utah.
Yes, I understand how dumb that is, but sometimes you have to fight stupid with stupider.
Porn sites have been doing that for years now.
And that’s exactly what they want.
They don’t want every website to do it though.
They don’t want every website to do it
Are you sure?
Even worse, that would not necessarily help. If someone’s accessing your website through a VPN that’s not located in that state, you would not block it… then become liable.
Better block everything at this point -_-
The great firewall of Utah, all your pron must be inspected by government officials prior to delivery…
So you’re saying we should blockade the blockade? /s
Web services and websites should block all Utah IP addresses
That won’t work on a VPN, though. The VPN will say the user is coming from outside the state. That’s the whole point of the VPN.
right, meaning everybody will need to get a VPN, defeating the purpose of the law
Every website would be better served to come up with a way to block all IP ranges that come out of Utah ISPs. Better to just block the whole state than try to play this game.
Russia’s VPN crackdown disrupts banks, marketplaces and government services
And so if I’m in Utah as a traveller I can’t check my local news by vpn? Ok
These aren’t “age checks”…it’s identity tracking.
Absolutely! Journalists really need to start describing these as what they are rather than the marketing term. It is much more accurate to call them “ID Checks” or something like that.
The acceleration of the popularization of darknets continues, it’s going to be a tough decade, but at the end of it, we’ll all be more private and secure. Learn about Tor, I2P, and anonymous internet alternatives!
Oh, I need to break character here to do a public service announcement.
Do you want to learn how to build onionized explosives? You shouldn’t read the Anarchist’s Cookbook then, or any other instruction sources, as those are compromised to expodes you. Same reason as why some alcohol would kill you during prohibition: your government loves you!
Wait, how long until literally any software business realizes what this is, and hard lobbies against it?
You basically must conduct all your business unencrypted in the state of Utah if this is to be understood.
Only business that would require an ID/Age Verification check, but yeah. Except they don’t want to hold actual websites liable. They want to hold ISP’s liable.
There’s literally no way to know if the people using the VPN’s are located in Utah. So this law would be unenforceable against actual websites.
It might possibly be enforceable against ISP’s but the problem is, once you fire up a VPN your ISP can only see your entry point and maybe that there is a volume of traffic going to and from your device. They can’t see what websites you visit (provided your VPN is properly configured).
I also don’t understand how this bill could effectively lay any blame against the websites for knowing you use a VPN because they also can’t see any of that information. They know that you visited and from a specific IP “located” in “place” and they can either assume that the use of a VPN means you’re in Utah (very unlikely), or they can assume you’re not (more likely given the population that lives outside Utah).
To date, the only countries that have made progress in blocking VPN traffic with some success are authoritarian regimes with ISP-level surveillance.
You know you’re on to something when the only playbook you can find was written by the Chinese government.
The horseshoe theory of mass surveillance
I don’t think it’s has anything to do with a horseshoe when they are just becoming a dictatorship as well. It’s just a line at that point.









