Honestly at this point is pretty obvious that USA owners have decided to depopulate the place now that robots and Ai is coming.
Yes this is my fear also. But globally.
I am fine with them withdrawing shots if they can effectively prove the disease has been eradicated. For instance, we no longer give small pox vaccinations.
I highly doubt this is what they are doing.
Start investing in Iron Lung companies. Their stock price is about to go way up.
Making Polio Great Again! (For the stock price must always go up)
So … this is what Rule of the Numbskulls looks like. Whelp … now we know.
But Dr. Milhoan said that making the vaccines optional, rather than requiring them for entry into public schools nationwide, as is now the case, would ultimately restore trust in public health.
So, they already are optional. It’s just that there are consequences for choosing that option (can’t get into public schools), and Republicans hate consequences. Except, dying from measles, or getting paralyzed by polio, are also consequences.
I’m beginning to think that this is really just a ploy to make public schools unsafe, so that people that can afford it shift to for profit private schools, which of course will be allowed to continue to require vaccines.
You certainly can’t have centralized education without mandatory vaccination. It would be too great of a vector for mass infections.
Fine with me as long as they close the borders and don’t let anyone leave.
The rich right have private enclaves and unlimited medical access so they are fine with this. The poor right has horse medication and bleach.
The only shots they support are gunshots.
Has anyone heard from Moscow Mitch in a minute?
Heh.
This is like the one thing Mitch is right about.
other than vaccine induced polio how would a modern day person in the USA even get exposed to polio?
Someone go as a tourist in places where polio is endemic ?
Someone comes as a tourist infectetd? Or maybe like 2022 when it was found in New Yorks waste water in 4 counties. But i’m not arguing. No one who thinks they should not vaccinate is fine for me and i hope not that they are getting infected. The main reason why people can decide that way is because others have decided to take the “risk” and go for a vaccine to make the virus virtually disappear. And this kind of bendy-twisty moral is wehre i have problems understanding the rationality of those people. But hey why not, the palestinias did nothing wrong after all…
did you read the link i provided? in case the implication wasn’t clear i’ll say it explicitly. Viruses which are virtually nonexistent (not circulating in the population) can be induced in a population by vaccination itself (in rare cases when using an attenuated virus).
This means there is a risk, especially for viruses like polio which basically don’t exist anymore, that a vaccination program will generate polio cases which then spread and create a new outbreak of polio.
Those recent outbreaks of polio were thought to be from an unnecessarily aggressive vaccination program, at least that’s the reporting i encountered.
I haven’t done a risk calculation, i don’t claim to be an epidemiologist or to know at what point this exotic risk outweighs the benefit of herd immunity. I suspect that calculation depends on things like exposure points in the population, general immunity, and the %of people already vaccinated historically.
It’s definitely a real effect (i linked directly to the american CDC) and it should be included in any discussion concerning virtually dead viruses. It hasn’t been made up by ‘antivaccers’ and for me personally i don’t even bring this up in those kind of spaces because i don’t trust them to parse this level of nuance and contradiction to be brutally honest.
The risk profile probably varies virus to virus also.
did you read the link i provided? in case the implication wasn’t clear i’ll say it explicitly. Viruses which are virtually nonexistent (not circulating in the population) can be induced in a population by vaccination itself (in rare cases when using an attenuated virus).
Yeah, and the vaccines protect everyone else.
But the problem is that it seems that you consider a virus nonexistend when it do not infect humans, but it is not this way: viruses exist anyway, they do not go extinct.It is not a coincidence that measles epidemics rise when and where the vaccination rates drops.
It will not be you (or who is making this decision) who will suffer the consequences so yeah, think vaccines are useless just because you don’t see polio sufferers in the vaccinated population. Then open an history book and look for polio epidemics.
This is the wrong comm for this isn’t it?
No, I literally can’t even imagine how you would come to that conclusion.
Because it’s about anti-science.
It was a joke.
