• friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
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    I hate X, but good luck with this:

    The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be,

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    Isn’t this just some random company trying to cash in a little from controversy surrounding Xitter?

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    will require identification and photo validation

    Straight from the book “How to kill your app before launch”, page 1.

    data privacy at its core

    Looks like they haven’t seen the obvious conflict with requiring id + photo, unless they plan on manually review every application.

    After reading the article, it sounds like they’re just making yet another xitter clone with the hopes that govt figures will use it. Govts could just spin their own mastodon or similars for a similar effect.

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      Considering the amount of bots and trolls everywhere I can see a certain appeal on an app that requires an id verification to be honest.

      • mbirth 🇬🇧@lemmy.ml
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        But if they’re doing it half-assed as most services (send photo of passport, take a selfie), it won’t be a challenge for AI to generate random IDs and a matching avatar for photo/video verification. The only way this could work is if they’d verify your ID by reading the NFC chip inside the passport or ID card.

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          True. I’d be up for that, but honestly more for a real social network for friends and family, like Facebook once was, than for a debate forum like Twitter. That demand could maybe endure that it would remain a friends only network…

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      Yup. Nothing and I say nothing makes a service less secure for privacy than requiring your ID and photo. That data will get leaked. It always does.

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        Most of EU countries has some sort of electronic identification system (in Italy SPID and CIE). You can simply ask to validate against it when creating an account and then you are good. You are verified and there is no dato to be leaked aside the data you decide to put into the system.

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    So a Mastodon ripoff, but its instances hosted by a single entity (effectively centralized): ensuring all instances residing within the European jurisdiction (allowing for full control over it). I don’t see how they genuinely believe, to have humans do the photo validation, when competing at the scale of X; especially when you run all the instances. Perhaps they could recruit volunteers to socialize the losses, as the platform privatizes the profits. Nothing but a privacy-centric approach however: said the privacy expert…

    Zeiter emphasized that systemic disinformation is eroding public trust and weakening democratic decision-making … W will be legally the subsidiary of “We Don’t Have Time,” a media platform for climate action … A group of 54 members of the European Parliament [primarily Greens/EFA, Renew, The Left] called for European alternatives

    If that doesn’t sound like a recipe, for swinging the pendulum to the other extreme (once more), I don’t know what does… Because can you imagine, a modern social media platform, not being a political echo chamber: not promoting extremism by use of filter bubbles, and instead allowing for deescalation through counter argumentation. One would almost start to think, for it all to be intentional: as a deeply divided population will never stand united, against their common oppressor.

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    Anna Zeiter, CEO of W, has told Bilanz.ch that W stands for “We.” Meanwhile, the first of the Vs that make up W stands for “Values,” and the second for “Verified.”

    “The fact that W comes before X in the alphabet is certainly also a welcome coincidence,” Zeiter said.

    Was curious if the”W” had a deeper meaning to it. Turns out it’s actually two V’s that form a “W”

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      Stupid name, vv, or vave would’ve been better. Besides, it’s not like they’ll register v.v as a domain, or even www.w.vv

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    Should’ve called it Z. Is just as good as X. In fact, is two better.

    We make platform now. Users come next week*.