• @Demuniac@lemmy.world
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    -28 months ago

    How is it immoral? Is Google morally obligated to provide you with a way to use their service for free? Google wants YouTube to start making money, and I’d guess the alternative is no more YouTube.

    Why is everyone so worked up about a huge company wanting to earn even more money, we know this is how it works, and we always knew this was coming. You tried to cheat the system and they’ve had enough.

    • HexesofVexes
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      148 months ago

      I think it’s a question of drawing a line between “commercial right” and “public good”.

      Mathematical theorems automatically come under public good (because apparently they count as discoveries, which is nonsense - they are constructions), but an artist’s sketch comes under commercial right.

      YouTube as a platform is so ubiquitously large, I suspect a lot of people consider it a public good rather than a commercial right. Given there is a large body of educational content, as well as some essential lifesaving content, there is an argument to be made for it. Indeed, even the creative content deserves a platform.

      A company that harvests the data of billions, has sold that data without permission for decades, and evades tax like a champion certainly owes a debt of public good.

      The actions of Google are not those of a company “seeking their due”, for their due has long since been harvested by their monopolisation of searches, their walked garden appstore, and their use of our data to train their paid AI product.

    • gian
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      48 months ago

      How is it immoral? Is Google morally obligated to provide you with a way to use their service for free? Google wants YouTube to start making money, and I’d guess the alternative is no more YouTube.

      Nope, but it is legally required to ask for permission to look into my device for data that it does not need to provide the serice.

      Of course Google could make money, it just need to make them without violating the laws.

    • @AnAngryAlpaca@feddit.de
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      8 months ago

      I get what you are saying, but you could argue that google is pretty much a monopoly at this point, using their power trying to extract money from customers they could never do if their was any real competition with a similar number of channels and customers.

      I think most users see google/youtube as a “the internet”, or a utility as important as power, water and heat. And don’t forget that google already requires users to “pay” for their services with data and ads in other services (maps, search, mail) as well.

      • @Demuniac@lemmy.world
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        -38 months ago

        So because they earn money somewhere else they should do something else for free? Why? What does Google owe us?

        They only have the monopoly if we give it to them. I find their model fair, I use their service a lot. if they overprice me I’ll find another form of entertainment.

        But you are right, people see YouTube as a necessity at this point. I’m trying to remind you, it’s not.

        • gian
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          48 months ago

          So because they earn money somewhere else they should do something else for free?

          Obviously not, but there is nothing to stop Google from making Youtube a paid service and drop that charade about adblockers.

          • @Demuniac@lemmy.world
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            08 months ago

            Google’s main source of income is ads across the board, so fighting adblockers is certainly in their best interest

            • gian
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              28 months ago

              Fine. But it need to fight by the rules.

              It is not up to discussion: Youtube want to serve video to EU user ? They need to follow EU rules. If the rule says that adblocker detection technologies (or attempt) are illegal Youtube has no really a say in it.

              • @Demuniac@lemmy.world
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                8 months ago

                Hell yeah they should, I’m not disputing that, but there’s so many here pretending like it’s somehow unethical for Google to fight against ad blockers, and I am arguing that.

                • gian
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                  18 months ago

                  It it not unethical what they are doing but how they are doing it. Not to mention against the law.