• gian
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    6 hours ago

    Thankfully the police can now confiscate any item on you that you can’t prove is yours and how you legally got it.

    This is what is wrong. I am not the one that should prove that what I do is legal, it is the police that must prove that what I am doing is illegal.

    • khannie@lemmy.world
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      5 hours ago

      The trouble with that is it can be very hard to actually prove for known scumbags. I live in a small country and they have a “criminal assets bureau” which can bring folks in massive houses with fancy cars and expensive watches to court and the burden of proof is lower.

      It basically boils down to “there’s no way this cunt can legally afford all this” then it gets seized.

      Before it was created you had criminal kingpins showing up to pick up their dole (social security) weekly while raking in massive money criminally.

      It’s not abused like that eminent domain thing in the US is though. There’s still court required.

      • Squizzy@lemmy.world
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        3 hours ago

        We have CAB and the Special Criminal Courts, two systems that currently do the job of a piss poor police force. They are a huge target for misuse and abuse should we ever see a rightward leap in our government.

        Luckily we have the best electoral system.

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        3 hours ago

        I know, but my point still stand: someone is innocent until proven guilty.

        Seizing somthing only because “there is no way this scumbag can legally afford all this” is nothing different from jailing someone because “there is no way you have not violated some law”.
        I am not required to justify myself (in this case: paying something with cash accepted by the state), it is police’s job to prove that the cash I used is obtained illegally, not mine to prove that it is legal.

        I undertand that for 10.000 euros or more it is better to use a bank tranfer to pay, less risks for everyone, but assuming that I am a criminal just because I do it don’t really solve the problem.