The French government issued a decree Tuesday banning the term “steak” on the label of vegetarian products, saying it was reserved for meat alone.

  • @theonyltruemupf@feddit.de
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    69 months ago

    I would like to buy something called bacon because I like bacon? You can like meat and still be vegan. Most vegans are vegan because of animal cruelty and climate impact, not because they hate meat. I can only speak for my country, but here such products are all on the same shelf and are clearly labeled as vegetarian/vegan. It makes sense to call it vegan bacon or vegan steak because it clearly imitates the meat product and I don’t want to have to decipher what it’s supposed to be first.

    • @SkippingRelax@lemmy.world
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      -19 months ago

      Then buy bacon. Or go online and try to find some info about what could resemble bacon in your country/area. Don’t see why all fucking people that have been buying bacon expecting to buy bacon now need to sift through other stuff to find, you know, bacon.

      Doesn’t really matter the reason why vegans are vegans. You made a choice, deal with it and I am not saying this in a snarky way, we shouldn’t change the meaning orlf word and mislabel food because of your choice and your personal tastes that still lean towards bacon - I can’t blame you for that BTW

      • @theonyltruemupf@feddit.de
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        19 months ago

        I don’t understand why you seem to be so angry about it. I won’t buy “real” bacon because it’s terrible for both climate and pigs.
        Nobody is mislabeling food. Vegan bacon is the perfect term for a vegan bacon substitute and nobody ever bought something labeled “vegan bacon” and was then disappointed that it didn’t contain meat. It’s not like manufacturers try to deceive people. The stuff is clearly labeled as vegan and it’s usually even sold from a different shelf.

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          19 months ago

          I don’t understand why you seem to be so angry about it. I won’t buy “real” bacon because it’s terrible for both climate and pigs.

          I am not that sure that from a climate point of view, my steak that come from the farm down the road (who was raised in the grass the other side of the road) is worse than the avocado coming from Florida.

          If you go to the industrial production, in the end there are no difference in the outcome, only in the way you arrive there.

          Nobody is mislabeling food. Vegan bacon is the perfect term for a vegan bacon substitute and nobody ever bought something labeled “vegan bacon” and was then disappointed that it didn’t contain meat. It’s not like manufacturers try to deceive people.

          Fine, but because we cannot agree to call things with its proper name ?

          The stuff is clearly labeled as vegan and it’s usually even sold from a different shelf.

          True, so I suppose that I can come up with some kind of “beyond cabbage” made from animal products and call it cabbage, right ? After all people just need to do is read the label…

          • @theonyltruemupf@feddit.de
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            19 months ago

            I’m just going to drop this here.

            Transportation is such a small factor in food production is pretty much negligible. Meat always loses vs plants regarding climate impact.

            Fine, but because we cannot agree to call things with its proper name ?

            Yes, that’s all I’m saying. Bacon is Bacon, vegan bacon is vegan bacon.

            True, so I suppose that I can come up with some kind of “beyond cabbage” made from animal products and call it cabbage, right ? After all people just need to do is read the label…

            If your meat cabbage abomination is labeled correctly and not sold in the vegetable section of the supermarket, sure, go for it. I doubt it would be a successful product, but go for it.

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              I’m just going to drop this here.

              Transportation is such a small factor in food production is pretty much negligible. Meat always loses vs plants regarding climate impact.

              Probably, I am not able to read what the picture say (for some reason is too small)

              Fine, but because we cannot agree to call things with its proper name ?
              

              Yes, that’s all I’m saying. Bacon is Bacon, vegan bacon is vegan bacon.

              Except the word bacon means “meat from the back or sides of a pig, often eaten fried in thin slices” and the word vegan means “a person who does not eat or use any animal products, such as meat, fish, eggs, cheese, or leather” (definitions from the Cambrigde dictionary), so maybe if you don’t want to change the language you need to come up with some other name, which have not this contradiction in itself ( and personally I think it would be better from a marketing point of view)

              True, so I suppose that I can come up with some kind of “beyond cabbage” made from animal products and call it cabbage, right ? After all people just need to do is read the label…

              If your meat cabbage abomination is labeled correctly and not sold in the vegetable section of the supermarket, sure, go for it. I doubt it would be a successful product, but go for it.

              Well, I can say the same about the vegan meat abomination.