You saying they’re a bot?

Was there a precursor to proton integrated with steam? I would’ve sworn my friends were bringing this up in like 2016 or 2017 and describing it as a special version of wine for games that valve made

Yeah, it’s default on pop os. Cannot remember if I tried Wayland, just going with the flow and it works for now

I wish PlexAmp did this so I could recommend it

My parents essentially voted against me having a job and don’t ever ask about my situation now which is precarious. Went from retiring safely to career in peril. Just one of many reasons why I agree with you.

You’re right that most people don’t use the RE. That was a bad example I guess.

The point of my question is this though: as pointed out in the original post, maintaining windows is no easy lift. To the point that your average user knows and hates the constant windows update process, and needs an “IT guy” in their life to help them overcome the hurdles which will arise. The idea that windows just works is a fallacy. Also same with Mac (or linux), but honestly? To a large degree linux can be that way for most users most of the time. Probably even more so than macs as long as it’s a good setup to begin with (the right distro, the software installed the user needs). Most people just need a browser. And it’s not without challenges just to keep even that running on windows. I’m aware of zero linux distros which force updates and even if you seek them out and install them, they aren’t very disruptive 99% of the time.

The best example of fighting the good fight as far as OSes. Good on you. Linux these days is for sure way better than commercial oses in most ways. Windows is more supported and macos is more obsessively polished on the surface. Otherwise they got nothing going for them

True but have you tried windows? The registry editor is just one example of the top tier bullshit that the windows apologists will gloss over. To them it’s normal to have to open what I’m sure started as a tool Microsoft only saw themselves using just to fix basic problems that shouldn’t have occurred in the first place

Hmm, I’m not aware of those tracks or how they work. I only really was able to install arch from a specific guide because the device is a raspberry pi 5

I think it’s very stable for what it is. But I still had it break remote desktop, wifi functionality, and something about graphics that caused weird glitches in Firefox. These issues all took months to fix, each. For most tech savvy people it’s probably stable enough but for the less common hardware, the only reason I could keep using and updating it was by leveraging timeshift. I would update everything, test if my issue was solved, see it still present then rollback. I did that process dozens of times.

Gotcha. I don’t think you are being unfair.

Yeah, I don’t love the aesthetic of Pop OS out of the box but with a minimal set of GNOME extensions I really like it. Which actually, is the case for me on vanilla GNOME too.

I’d like to be an Arch person, but on the only device I’ve used it on, I’ve had some major breakages happen a couple of times. Took months for the issues to get resolved. Which honestly, as hard as software is, let alone OSes, is a great track record. Most teams could only keep stability specifically with these long/major release schedules like everyone else essentially does it.

That’s amazing! Why shit on Pop!_OS though? I’ve always liked it. I think it’s definitely more stable than Arch in the long term

What is AOVPN?

I have had that laptop a couple weeks and have been loving it. On fedora, everything pretty much just works flawlessly with no effort. I had a small issue figuring out how to turn off secure boot at first (f2 at boot time I think?) because that menu was separate from the rest of bios.

Other than the speaker not being great (not surprising) and the battery life being meh, it’s a very impressive machine. Mac laptops for me have always been the gold standard for smooth operation but I despise apple, so when I got this machine and it felt mostly like the smoothness of a MacBook pro with the freedom of Linux, I was super stoked about this laptop. It feels very snappy and the keyboard and touchpad are great.

Describes my experience exactly! I’m liking Fedora

Highly recommend Pop_OS. It’s Ubuntu minus the bad parts, like snap. Been running it a couple years now and had few issues.

Gonna go cry myself to sleep now. I feel so inferior

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