Windows 11 adds native support for RAR, 7-Zip, Tar and other archive formats thanks to open-source library::undefined

  • Resol van Lemmy@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Microsoft annonces an actually useful feature for Windows once in a blue moon basically. This is one of them.

    But I still hate Windows.

  • pHr34kY@lemmy.world
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    I wonder how long before I can send someone a .7z file without “hurr durr I can’t open this”.

    Like, OpenDocument support exists in Office 2003 and I still encounter those who can’t open a .odt file.

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      2 years ago

      Office support also exists for the majority of editors so why not just use what people are used to?

      Why not just send a zip?

      There’s no advantage to the receiver for either of these.

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        ODF works on everything. It’s reliable and fully documented. The MS office implementation contradicts its own specification and breaks. A lot.

        The PK-Zip file format was released in the year 1989. The compression is terrible by modern standards.

    • RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      To be fair, Windows now has better support than Gnome does natively. I wish they would finally give nautilus seamless archive integration…

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        Watch as they break it even more. They broke drag and drop between archives and nautilus a while ago and it remains broken to this day.

  • MrFlamey@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    This is great, but I honestly hate the way that windows treats zips like they are just folders on your computer when they are fundamentally different, and I want to do different things with them. Sure, it’s nice to be able to browse the files inside, but I can do that with 7zip.

    • lmaydev@lemmy.world
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      The whole point is most people don’t want a third party app.

      I also think for most users treating them as a normal folder makes complete sense.

      Chances are you aren’t the target audience of the default configuration of windows. It’s aimed at people who have trouble checking their email.

      • TheMurphy@lemmy.world
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        It’s aimed at people who have trouble checking their email.

        Opening ZIP natively in folder app really is just user friendly practices. Ofc it’s easier to able to browse its content that way.

        You shouldn’t need 3rd party software for things that simple.

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          The problem being average people don’t tend to understand what a zip file is, I regularly have to explain that you can’t run an executable from a zip

          • KᑌᔕᕼIᗩ@lemmy.ml
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            2 years ago

            You can though, Windows just prompts you to extract it if needed and it’s all fairly user friendly.

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      It’s nice when you can use the file browser of an app and I can open a file from a zip directly but I see your point.

      • MrFlamey@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, it’s probably best for most users, but I just personally prefer to treat them separately so I know what I’m dealing with.

  • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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    On macOS, the default double click behavior just unzips the archive into a folder of the same name with no additional interface. I always thought that was a nicer implementation than opening the archive to browse the files how Linux distros usually do (and maybe Windows; I’m not a frequent Windows user). It’s probably what 90% of people want 90% of the time. Why not just make that the default and put the other use cases behind the right click menu?

    • dgsfsfda@lemmy.world
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      I feel like this will only make life easier for everyone. I hate Windows as much as the next guy but this will help open archive formats be more accessible.

      • unexpectedteapot@lemmy.ml
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        I understand the sentiment, but I do not come to the same conclusion that of increasing accessibility via offering more features in unfree proprietary software. The intended consequences of this were publicised by US Justice Department in their uncovering of Microsoft’s memo labelled Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish which outlines how this eventually leads to less, not more, accessibility.

        That aside, Microsoft Windows already supported ZIP which is an open standard. The addition of RAR, which is a proprietary unfree standard, is actually less open.

  • SendMePhotos@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    They updated the computers at work to W11 and they really fucked up the basic notepad app. It has tabs now and reopens my last draft instead of a new blank window.