The Firefox browser now has a built-in page translator that works even without the Internet::Mozilla has announced the release of an update to its Firefox browser. In version number 118, users will find a significant innovation - a built-in translator

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    As a long term Firefox user, I’ve been disappointed with Mozilla’s decisions in the recent years, but this is awesome. This is the kind of features Firefox should be receiving instead of useless UI changes.

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      As long as Mozilla remains committed to a free and open internet, I will remain a faithful firefox user.

      Even if every update after this one is a useless UI change. :p

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      Are you saying you don’t want a button that looks like a pinned tab that only lets you change between a handful of time-limited themes?

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    Only these languages though:

    Bulgarian
    Dutch
    English
    French
    German
    Italian
    Polish
    Portuguese
    Spanish
    
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        Yeah but these websites are usually already localized in English at least to some extent. Many Asian websites would benefit much more from this.

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      That’s really not good. Literally all of these are European languages.

      I’d rather have it connected to a better translation service than have it be offline. I don’t understand why the translator working offline is even a plus. It’s a web browser.

      I assume there must not be any FOSS translation services they can use so this offline translator is just a consequence of that.

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        That’s fine for translating news articles, but maybe not for private email. Different people accept different risk levels in different situations. If you have reason to be using https then maybe you don’t want to send that data to a third party.

      • King@lemmy.worldBanned
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        Gets 5 free stuff and bitches for not getting 50. Some people…

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    Glad to see this has made it into the browser! This has been a 🇪🇺 funded project for years now!

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      You still need an extension for certain languages. It seems like they only have about a dozen available, a few more on the way, and hardly any eastern languages yet.

      Production

      • Spanish
      • Estonian
      • English
      • German
      • Czech
      • Bulgarian
      • Portuguese
      • Italian
      • French
      • Polish

      Development

      • Russian
      • Persian (Farsi)
      • Icelandic
      • Norwegian Nynorsk
      • Norwegian Bokmål
      • Ukrainian
      • Dutch
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    This was the last thing I actively used chrome for, time to fully switch over I guess now that I can translate my Russian tracker.

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      I wish I could leave chrome, but FF can’t keep up with me. I’ve been trialing FF across multiple systems and OS’s and it’s the same across them all, around 100-150 tabs it gets unstable, uses way more RAM than Chrome and then eventually crashes

      I can have literally hundreds upon hundreds of tabs in Chrome.

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          A lot of people seem to never use bookmarks and depend on just leaving the tabs open. shrug I guess they let their history last forever too.

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        Interesting, I found chrome to be worse with a lot of tabs open. Not much worse though, I think they are both bad. I started using OneTab with FF and it made things a lot smoother. Easy way to save specific windows with a lot of tabs until I need it again later.

        Now I only use about ten active windows with 4-50 tabs each lol

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          Idk man lol I was testing FF to try to get off Chrome and I tested it on multiple Win10 and MacOS computers (Physical and VMs) and it was pretty much the same across

          Although Chrome seems to get weird once you cross the 600 tab barrier, but having a 600 tab “limit” vs <200 is still a lot better

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            Maybe that’s why I sought out a program like one tab afterall

            200 tabs was probably on the low end for me before I started using that extension

            It’s been years now, so I may be guilty of some false memories

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        I use the side berry extension for FF which adds a sidebar to organize tabs into groups and adds a tree structure to the tab view as well. It also automatically unloads inactive tabs until you return to them. I have 1400 tabs open

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        you can do the same with firefox, you can have hundred of tabs open there as well, it has the same capability to suspend tabs.

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        I get tab anxiety at about 20 at which point the least visited get scrapped.

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        Try Tab Suspender. With it you can open as many tabs as you care to, it will auto-suspend tabs unless you choose tabs not to suspend. This way you can open as many tabs in as many windows as you want, even suspend all the tabs in one window or many windows.
        One Tab is even better, it puts all open tabs into 1 tab as a long list, then you can open those as needed in new tabs or windows.

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    While this is theoretically a neat feature, how can I stop it? I don’t want it to offer translation of each and any English page into my native tongue. As most of the Internet is English, this thing pops up everywhere, and at least for English I don’t need it. This is as annoying as Clippy was.

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      Each time it offers to translate a page, there’s a “Never translate from [LANGUAGE]” button.

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      Most of the internet is not in English lol. 45% of the web is in English.

      But I share your sentiment.

    • stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world
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      I’m willing to bet you could work something out to make it work

      Otherwise there’s always selenium which I imagine would include functionality to do the page translations.

      +1 for interest!

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    I was using the beta before this and its nice to have it inbuilt but its not quite as good as the beta was. The main drawback with the new approach is that you can’t force the translation if it thinks the page is in English. I use self hosted RSS and I have Translated subsections on that and unfortunately I can’t get the new translator to do the job where the beta would.

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    Would be good to have this in the mobile/tablet versions also (I just checked and didn’t see it), as this is my main reason for still using chrome

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      Would be great to have that on Lemmy Sync app, too! After browsing a while, a large proportion of posts start being in languages I dont understand.

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        It has online translation if you sign up for Sync Ultra. I believe it uses Google Translate.

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    I’ve installed the add-on manually a few weeks ago and it works surprisingly well. It’s now my go-to translation tool for websites.

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    It has multiple translation providers to choose from, but only shows the logo and not a name. I have no idea what the logos are except google translate

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    I’m sure there’s some use cases out there, but that kind of sounds dumb at first. You can use a built-in page translator that translates web pages… without the internet. How are you getting to these pages in the first place then? I’m assuming the appeal is more from the privacy aspect, because it’s not communicating with anyone else to get those translations?

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      You can open local html documents in your browser. They don’t need to be downloaded from the internet. This can be useful for a variety of purposes, such as for CLI tools that produce HTML to visualize data.

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      It’s, for example, quite important for folks handling internal documents in a company. You get those documents served via the company’s intranet, so not publicly accessible. And if you click that translate-button with other translators, that internal document is published into the internet, which is a breach of confidentiality, or even a breach of contract, if you’re handling supplier documents.

      If your company is big enough, it may have a self-hosted translation service that you can use, but for everyone else, foreign language documents were a bit of a problem so far.

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      It’s much faster for one. Google Translate is super slow compared to this and it sometimes refuses to work if the Google overlords think you might be a bot or something.