The problem is that everyone is afraid that the wrong people will win, irregardless who win.
TBH, this was very predictable after the last elections. If you need to put everyone else together to not let $SOMEONE to govern, this is the only outcome. France just needed to look to what happen in Italy every 2 elections.
How about France starts accepting democracy for better or worse, and let it’s People choose for once.
I agree with you. Problem is that if they had followed the results of the last elections, now Le Pen would be part of the govern, and that was not acceptable by the Left.
So what they did after the first round was to put together all the parties that had as unique common point “Marie Le Pen / the Right wing should not win”, like the Left in Italy do too much often.
And like in Italy yes, they won and let the people choose, but like in Italy they started fighting amongst themselves the minute after the victory.
So now France have a big problem: the parties that win the election are not able to create a durable and credible govern because they have nothing in common if not the fear that for the Front National and they are afraid to go to new election exactly because they are afraid, rightly, that this time the Front Nationale (or any other Right wing party) will win. And to them they are the wrong people.
Then you need to begin to understand what I say.
I was saying that France has the problem for exactly this reason, and I explained why they had the problem.
Man, I get you hate me, but if you want to answer my post at least try to read them
Calling everyone who not agree with you nazi does not make you better.
I do not said that NFP should be in power, I only explained why France is in this situation.
Now if you would be less stupid and then you start to think about it, this is a situation that in itself is apolitical.
Irregardless of my ideas, if to win I need to gather everyone that don’t want to let you win (for whatever reason), in the end I will be in the same situation France is right now, I may win but that end there becase me and my allies have nothing in common if not our fear (or desire to not let you win) of you.
And the same is true with the roles reversed.
Which is exactly what happened in France, what happen every two election in Italy and what happened with Trump in the US (on top of a suicide of the democrats).
That make me a nazi ? Just because I take the time to explain why France is in this situation ? Feel free to think it, but that don’t solve the problem we were discussing.
It’s just very destructive for a democracy, not accepting there is 30% of your People with another vision than your own.
It’s like in germany. The parties keep trying to silence AFD but what they actually are doing is just making them more popular, because AfD can then say: “Look, where is the democracy and voices of the People, the government doesn’t care about your voices.”
It’s like in germany. The parties keep trying to silence AFD but what they actually are doing is just making them more popular, because AfD can then say: “Look, where is the democracy and voices of the People, the government doesn’t care about your voices.”
I agree. And the problem is that the Left is not realizing it, they seems to think that if they somehow silence the messenger then the problem goes away
The problem is that everyone is afraid that the wrong people will win, irregardless who win.
TBH, this was very predictable after the last elections. If you need to put everyone else together to not let $SOMEONE to govern, this is the only outcome. France just needed to look to what happen in Italy every 2 elections.
Isn’t this making it worse really? How about France starts accepting democracy for better or worse, and let it’s People choose for once.
Probably
I agree with you. Problem is that if they had followed the results of the last elections, now Le Pen would be part of the govern, and that was not acceptable by the Left.
So what they did after the first round was to put together all the parties that had as unique common point “Marie Le Pen / the Right wing should not win”, like the Left in Italy do too much often.
And like in Italy yes, they won and let the people choose, but like in Italy they started fighting amongst themselves the minute after the victory.
So now France have a big problem: the parties that win the election are not able to create a durable and credible govern because they have nothing in common if not the fear that for the Front National and they are afraid to go to new election exactly because they are afraid, rightly, that this time the Front Nationale (or any other Right wing party) will win. And to them they are the wrong people.
That’s bullcrap. The NFP arrived first in the last election, asshole. Fucking liar
So who are the NFP’s ministers in the govern ?
There’s none idiot, that’s the point. He disrespected democracy, just not the way you pretend
Then you need to begin to understand what I say.
I was saying that France has the problem for exactly this reason, and I explained why they had the problem.
Man, I get you hate me, but if you want to answer my post at least try to read them
Shut up idiot you said the nazis must be in power.
Calling everyone who not agree with you nazi does not make you better.
I do not said that NFP should be in power, I only explained why France is in this situation.
Now if you would be less stupid and then you start to think about it, this is a situation that in itself is apolitical.
Irregardless of my ideas, if to win I need to gather everyone that don’t want to let you win (for whatever reason), in the end I will be in the same situation France is right now, I may win but that end there becase me and my allies have nothing in common if not our fear (or desire to not let you win) of you. And the same is true with the roles reversed.
Which is exactly what happened in France, what happen every two election in Italy and what happened with Trump in the US (on top of a suicide of the democrats).
That make me a nazi ? Just because I take the time to explain why France is in this situation ? Feel free to think it, but that don’t solve the problem we were discussing.
It’s just very destructive for a democracy, not accepting there is 30% of your People with another vision than your own.
It’s like in germany. The parties keep trying to silence AFD but what they actually are doing is just making them more popular, because AfD can then say: “Look, where is the democracy and voices of the People, the government doesn’t care about your voices.”
I agree. And the problem is that the Left is not realizing it, they seems to think that if they somehow silence the messenger then the problem goes away