Amazon CEO Andy Jassy warns remote workers: ‘It’s probably not going to work out for you’::Amazon CEO Andy Jassy told employees who defy his edict to return to the office three days a week that “it’s probably not going to work out for you.”

  • fakero
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    3910 months ago

    The brain drain is real. Wonder how long before this boomer policy hurts Andy’s precious shareholders.

  • @bfg9k@lemmy.world
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    2010 months ago

    Remote Workers warn Amazon CEO Any Jassy: 'Working for a tyrant is probably not going to work out for us."

  • Franzia
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    1410 months ago

    This is readily admitting he’s about to do what’s called Constructive Dismissal!

    Which means he will owe all remote workers their severance pay.

  • @nbafantest@lemmy.world
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    1410 months ago

    I was looking at some of the Amazon postings near me, but they’re all down in Irvine.

    Pretty much the entire talents pool of LA is off limits to Amazon now.

    • @3laws@lemmy.world
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      1710 months ago

      It’s not looking good for programers in particular.

      The reason why the can get paid as much as they want is 100% based on you being able to jump ship form company to company without having to wait for a company to find common ground between you and them through a union.

      Sure, they’ll still be hugely compensated but tech companies will keep abusing interns, freelancers. Obviously outsourcing will explode even more than it already has in the last 10 years.

      • @AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml
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        10 months ago

        True, but that’s why you do a trade union instead of a company union. And programmers have a lot to gain. These companies, shareholders, and CEOs rake in billions that could be going to employees.

        A programmer will make a feature that saves the company a million dollars and they’ll get paid $100,000 to build it.

        Now is the best time for programmers to unionize. Do it when you already have leverage to make sure the good times stay good. Otherwise, we’ll eventually be as replaceable as drafters are now.

        • @5BC2E7@lemmy.world
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          -510 months ago

          Did you mean software engineers? A professional degree is not required but it is mostly software engineers taking the positions. The job title is also software engineer.

            • @5BC2E7@lemmy.world
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              10 months ago

              It’s pretty clear you are not part of the industry. Your preference for trade like titles shows you don’t have real world experience in this industry and are just sharing opinions based on your political beliefs with no real basis on reality.

              And if you really are in the industry it’s difficult to believe that you failed to realize that 95%+ are not tradesmen and have profesional degrees in software engineering or something similar.

              • @Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world
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                210 months ago

                Did he ever say they were Trade Workers? The only time he mentioned Trade that I saw was talking about Trade Unions, which don’t specifically have anything to do with Trade Workers

                • @5BC2E7@lemmy.world
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                  10 months ago

                  He described workers as programmers. Only a neophyte would do that.

                  When called out he doubled down instead of explaining why he doesn’t use the normal title

          • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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            010 months ago

            Software engineer is a stupid term akin to calling the guy at Subway a “sandwich engineer”. Which even if stupid doesn’t really affect me. But now, half the time anyone says “engineer” it’s for you programmer dudes, and not real engineers. You’ve destroyed job boards and listings.

      • gian
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        110 months ago

        The reason why the can get paid as much as they want is 100% based on you being able to jump ship form company to company without having to wait for a company to find common ground between you and them through a union.

        How strange, were I live there are Unions but when I jump ship I get paid what I want, without waiting for the Union, what do you think a Union is for ?

        The real power of a Union is to let workers to negotiate for a minimum wage level (for example, I cannot be employed for less than a certain wage because it would be illegal to do so) that are reasonable and some basic rights the workers have (for example, no at will employment, a minimum PTO days which are enforced and thing like this).

        True, this has some consequences, mainly companies try to go for the legal minimum, but I would say that it is positive overall

        • @3laws@lemmy.world
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          110 months ago

          Do you get paid $450k with only 5 years of experience? Cuz that’s industry standard rn.

          • gian
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            110 months ago

            Obviously not, 450k here is out of market where I live but on the other hand I have not the living cost of the Silicon Valley (or the US in general). I suspect that at the end of the month I save much more than the average Silicon Valley worker even if he earn, let’s say, 10 times what I earn.

            But my point was that a Union does not stop you to ask what you want to be paid and if you are worth it you get it, nothing else.

  • Obinice
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    1210 months ago

    You know what’s probably not going to work out for you, Andy Jassy? The next proletariat uprising.

    • @SCB@lemmy.world
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      1510 months ago

      That’s never going to happen.

      What really won’t work out for him is retention of top talent that values WFH.

    • @Siegfried@lemmy.world
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      210 months ago

      I think civilization will end way before americans grow a pair of balls and stand up against this breed of assholes

  • @dx1@lemmy.world
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    2510 months ago

    I’ve gotten so much recruitment crap from Amazon. This kind of crap is why none of those worked out for them.

    • @bluemite@lemmy.world
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      610 months ago

      A large portion of their business relies on rapid manufacturing and delivery. They’re not concerned about the environment

      • 𝕯𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙
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        710 months ago

        I’m not an expert in Amazon but I thought Jassy was CEO of AWS, which would be amazon web services. For the uninitiated, AWS is basically a hosting company - they don’t just provide web services for amazon.com.

        Being the CEO of a company that specializes in using the internet and making those workers come into an office is especially ghoulish.