And suddenly these same assholes will tell you to turn your ac off because the power grid can’t meet demand for some “mysterious” reason.
Splurge for me, conserve for thee.
Same with water in CA. Industry uses >80% of water in the state and the focus is on 30 second showers and bullying citizens because their representatives have been captured along with their press in the profit machine.
Reminds me of the story of Texas paying bitcoin farms millions of dollars not to use energy during heat waves https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bitcoin-mining-cryptocurrency-riot-texas-power-grid/
But it’s not the AI farm’s fault, because they get paid to turn off during times the grid is under a lot of stress. So they make money 100% of the time, don’t worry!
“To the best of our knowledge, it is the largest data center — we think of it as a campus — in the world,” OpenAI’s chief global affairs officer Chris Lehane told The Associated Press last week. “It generates, roughly and depending how you count, about a gigawatt of energy.”
Why is this guy saying a datacenter generates energy? It does literally the exact opposite. I guess you don’t need to actually know anything to get a leadership role at openai, as long as you can say lots of words.
Some of these facilities do generate a significant portion of their own electricity via various means. It’s not like that amount of energy is just sitting out there on the grid waiting to be used. Somebody has to generate it and if you’re already investing millions in rectifiers, batteries, and other data center power systems, why wouldn’t you consider taking it a step further?
I read something about natural gas powered power plants; not sure if it’s this one specifically.
Because unfortunately this is not the only gigantic climate destroyer AI thingy planned/built.
AI Data centers noticeably fuck with the grid. As a result they are facing internal and external pressure to generate more of their own power. Microsoft is opening a nuclear power plant. I would not be shocked to learn through solar, wind, and coal they provide the majority of their own power
But this proposed data center is so big, it would have its own dedicated energy from gas generation and renewable sources, according to Collins and company officials.
The “depending on how you count” probably refers to the renewables.
the only thing that makes sense is heat
My data center has 35MW of generators onsite. No modern DC is designed nor built without backup generators to allow continuous operation during any utility power outages.
Yeah that language is pure corporate BS - data centers CONSUME energy at massive scales (up to 1 gigawatt in this case, which is insane), they’re literally just giant heaters that occasionally produce AI outputs as a byproduct of all that wasted electricty.
I guess they could say they are generating 1GW of computing power
More like a GW of heat… Thankfully I’m sure that will counteract whatever has caused it to be over 80 degrees on my way to work before 0700.
Every square kilometer of land (0.38 Sq miles in freedom units) gets about a GW of heat from the sun (depending on latitude). I doubt one datacenter will contribute that much…
I don’t know, I’ve been in some hot places but massive cooling towers tend to radiate a bit more (now I know what I’m reading about today) and a data center without the ability to pump heat outside isn’t going to make it a whole day before it’s toast.
Not necessarily disagreeing, just curious about how much heat is dispersed by the ones here.
1 gigawatt is not that insane, and I doubt it’s what the datacenter consumes. A rack can easily get into double, even triple digits kW for GPU heavy setups. So let’s say 10 racks per Megawatt. I’m sure such a datacenter has more than 10.000 racks. Plus A/C, and all other “ancillary” uses. A normal datacenter can get close to 1 GW, this thing might be double digits, but I doubt they will publish exact numbers.
Remember how we were told to switch to led lights and efficient appliances to conserve power? Guess it was just to save it for data centers.
Yes, and my bill become 1/5 of what it was, so maybe is was a not so stupid thing to do.
Every time you thank ChatGPT, a house goes dark in Wyoming
*a barn goes dark
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But this proposed data center is so big, it would have its own dedicated energy from gas generation and renewable sources
Very unfortunate, as this could have been an opportunity to advance the green power agenda. Solar, wind, and nuclear are all more efficient than fossil fuels – so why build new fossil fuel plants?
Because solar and wind plants, while they can be cheap and relatively fast to build, are not as reliable as a datacenter need and it is not predictable, so at most they can supplement some other generation method, in this scenario. Then ok, you probably need less fossil fuel (but gas is not necessary fossil these days).
And a nuclear plant is probably way longer to build than the datacenter itself, if you ever get the green light to build it.keepin my fingers crossed for nuclear. 🤞
Reminds me of that town that Musk basically bought a while back, promising a spaceport or something, and all they really got out of it is a lot of noise and pollution.
Fake news! Everyone knows Wyoming was made up by the deep state and doesn’t actually exist.
Wyoming is corrupt as fuck. Coal is in charge there
Literally the plot of Eddington lol, this country gets worse each year
I was looking for someone to say this. Then realized not many people here watch recent movies.
More like most people don’t watch anything other then studio tentpole and popcorn muncher movies
Can imagine, but hey, someone’s gotta pay for all those Sora videos I’m generating and trashing because the subject had too many extremities.
Me with suno songs lmao
Lots of wind farms out there
The state exports almost three-fifths of the electricity it produces, according to the EIA.
this means to use internal “surplus” electricity in the state, 750mw data center would be supported. The initial build is 1.8gw. Need to increase electricity production in the state by over 150%. Surrounding states that depend on Wyoming imports get screwed if WY production not increased more.
Will AI finally be the push we needed to seriously invest in Nuclear 100%? I’d rather that than solar panel companies create a bunch of garbage to say that they’re “saving le planet”
