“Chinese authorities have far-reaching access rights to personal data within the sphere of influence of Chinese companies,” she added.
And that’s different to American companies how? None of this climate of data harvesting is currently good for us.
At least formally, with US companies there are agreements that the data on european citizen need to stay in EU, with China no
Which gives superficial comfort as it gives scant protection from how aggregate data is used to upend democracy.
It’s simple: America Good, China Bad.
There isn’t much more depth to it than this. BTW even Lemmy is sadly suffering from the same brainrot.
Yes. But “America bad, China good” is also brainrot.
I don’t think China is good. I think China is a strong country doing normal superpower stuff.
The difference is China doesn’t start wars and isn’t out to overthrow other countries governments.
Their leadership doesn’t act like clowns either, they have the seriousness that the western world seems to have lost after everyone collectively decided that voting far-right is “based” for “owning the libs”.
So all in all I expected people to hate China less than the US. But online propaganda speaks louder than reason these days.
Do chatgpt, claude, gemini, llama, etc keep user data in the EU?
Sure ;)
Yes. You’ve heard about billions being invested in new data centers in the EU?
Then there’s also the “EU-US Data Privacy Framework”. People here don’t really understand what the GDPR is about.
Regarding DPF: https://iapp.org/news/a/schrems-addresses-emerging-questions-around-eu-us-data-privacy-framework. It’s unlikely to hold unfortunately.
Commissioner and his friends use those apps so can’t ban them.
Germany is known in Europe for being one of the biggest wh*res of the USA so that doesn’t surprise me more than that.
I will say it is fantastic you can run deepseek models locally
Some of the deepseek r1 distills are still the best small models. The 8b ones are good and can run on a lot of devices.
the distills are good for their sizes but not even close to being comparable to the full model in quality
But American companies harvesting our data and sending it straight into the hands of the Trump administration and his harem of tech whores like Zuckerberg, Bezos, Altman are a-okay. I’d rather have China harvest my data, because China doesn’t have as much influence over my life here in Germany as the US does.
Why not just leave it up to the users? Maybe put a warning?
Why does the government have to ban everything and treat us like children?
Congratulations, this is how you get exploited by corporations.
I’m curious whether Deepseek will gaf about this. They’ve been rather uninterested in commercialization, and the app is mainly a way of showing off their model, which itself is released open-weights. In fact, it’s literally impossible to spend money in the app! They sell tokens but it’s API-only, and you can’t spend it in the app.
So it’s entirely possible the Deepseek will shrug, let their app be banned in Germany, and keep doing what they’re doing.
