Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton’s trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

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    Can you even use Reddit if you’re running Proton’s VPN? I know Reddit has been actively blocking other VPNs (eg Mullvad) for some time.

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    every time I hear anything about this shit company, I keep thinking it’s valve’s linux compatibility thingy and I get real confused about why people are hating on it.

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    One shitty CEO can destroy a company the same way one shitty president can destroy a country.

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    5 months ago

    I was using proton pass but I would like to move on. Is there a good open source password manager that is secure and hosted locally?

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    If you’re looking to shake up your email provider in the wake of this, I highly recommend getting a custom domain name, whatever provider you choose. Cloudflare sells domains at cost. Get a not-embarrasing .com of your own, and then you can move email providers in future without losing continuity. Proton allows exporting .eml files, which you can then import into your next provider. Or just keep in cold storage and declare email bankruptcy. Once you have a custom domain, you can use unique emails for all your services by setting up a catchall address. This will at least impede credential stuffing attacks, and let you know who sold/leaked your address if you do get spam.

    I personally left Proton a month or so ago after the last bit of drama, in part out of principle, but also because their offering is just really expensive for my use case: I just want email, on a budget, with reasonable privacy. Plus I was tired of not having IMAP support and being locked into their clients. Moved to a Zoho business account (for now) and have been happy for the $12/yr. I already had a domain name, but they typically run <$20/year too.

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      Get an embarrassing domain, then give that one out to all the shitty stores that ask you for an email. Bonus points if it will make people extremely uncomfortable.

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      Would I need to do anything with the custom domain beyond registering it for this to work with an email provider?

      Because this sounds like a great migration plan: set up a custom domain, add it to protonmail, update emails, export data, and then switch providers.

      I’m just a bit clueless on the whole setting up a custom domain part.

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        You don’t have to do anything else with the domain, it’ll work fine for email only.

        You could add it to Proton, take your time to migrate all your accounts, then dip. Or you could just go straight to a new provider with the domain, and take your time transitioning accounts to the custom domain over time that way. Assuming Proton’s free offering is sufficient, you can always keep it around and set up forwarding to your custom domain.

        Regarding domain name setup itself, Proton should provide steps for how to do it correctly, but I found them to be a bit fiddly (might have improved, this was a few years ago) - when I moved to Zoho I found it really easier. If you’re using Cloudflare for the domain registration, Zoho can basically do it all automatically (click a few links link and accept the proposed changes).

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          Thanks! I registered a domain with cloudflare and that was easy enough. I’ll read up on some alternative providers and see how this all shakes out.

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      AirVPN is great, allows port forwarding, 5 devices, and they run very good black Friday specials every year if you decide to buy it after trialling.

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        I had it for over a year and then, one day, every time I stepped outside my home, it would go into “connecting…” and never come back.

        I’d have to go into settings and completely deleted it, then re-add. I gave up, and went to proton. Literally zero issues until the ceo started praising nazis

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    I can see a company not wanting to invest resources in a social media platform without critical mass. But for a company that itself is trying to gain critical mass, moving away from a similarly situated privacy focused platform is idiotic. It signals to potential Proton users that the company cannot be trusted and it’s very hard to recover from that.

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    Another L by Proton. Why would they even say it and just stop posting silently.

    Even if you agree with Proton’s positions it’s clear that Andy is just tanking the company’s image with such rookie leadership mistakes.

    Incredibly incompetence which makes you wonder how competent the actual code running everything is?

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    Honest, stupid question: Why exactly is this such a big deal to so many of you? (I don’t use Mastodon.)

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      Proton recently got shot in the foot when one of their board members said some stuff that made it sound like he was somehow not certain that fascists are bad for privacy. The guy responded and clarified and made some good points…and still very clearly did not realize or did not feel it important to mention or even imply that fascists are very definitely bad for privacy. This is still post-record-scratch for Proton.

      So leaving what’s basically the only social media of the future, such as it is, and sticking it out in the garbage heaps, makes two data points that make a line that goes in the direction of “definitely going to enshittify”. It’s possible this could be wrong, because two data points isn’t huge, but these are also things that were extremely easy to get right, and require an oddly large amount of effort to fuck up like they have.

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        Thanks for the reply! I was only aware of the CEO’s X comments regarding Trump’s politics. I JUST moved away from Google and have been quite happy with Proton, especially Mail and Pass.