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      If you’re occasionally using them, there aren’t any.

      If you’re excessively using them, there are many.

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          Sure, I can do that.

          • If you’re looking for something lightweight, go for st or urxvt. These are Xorg-only.
          • If you want to configure it via GUI, xfce4-terminal is the middle ground for lightweight and feature-rich. If you are on KDE, konsole would suffice. You can use these on Xorg and Wayland.
          • If you want to work with multiple panes in a single window, terminator is your friend. Used this on Xorg but not sure about its Wayland compatibility.
          • If you want GPU acceleration and more features, kitty and alacritty is out there. Both should work on Xorg and Wayland.
          • If you want something like st but pure Wayland, foot is the best lightweight terminal emulator. My current personal favourite.
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            Fucking legend!

            Pretty sure I’m using konsole right now, whatever it is, it came pre-installed on my distro.
            Might check out foot and kitty, what I’m using is working right now, but always nice to look into different options.

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              Yeah, it’s one of the greatest characteristics of FOSS. We have many options and endless posibilities.

              Glad to help.

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    Looking at ghostty-git in AUR, zig is built on haskell? With 221 haskell libraries.

    And what does it need pandoc-cli and hslua-cli for?

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    warning: this is a giant rant lol

    Before the rest of my comment, let me be clear, I think this terminal is good, and i have no problems with it. My problem is with the hype.

    I simply don’t understand the hype whatsoever. First of all, it’s not even faster than my current terminal. especially when running cat /dev/random for whatever reason

    For the test i ran this rust program i saw in a comment thread somewhere

    use std::{
        fs::File,
        io::{BufWriter, Write},
    };
    
    fn main() {
        let buf = File::create("/dev/stdout").unwrap();
        let mut w = BufWriter::new(buf);
        let mut i = 0;
    
        while i <= 100000 {
            writeln!(&mut w, "{}", i).unwrap();
            i += 1;
        }
    }
    

    compile with rustc to test yourself.

    running the binary with hyperfine, i get ~35ms on my current terminal (foot), and ~40ms on ghostty.

    The terminal window sizes about the same size, in fact, there were 3 extra lines in foot so it was technically handicapped.

    Next is the whole “native ui thing”, which sure, if you use gnome, or mac is fine i guess, but what about kde where qt is used. And for me i simply hate title bars so i turned it off immediately and now it looks better.

    I do think the tabs are cool, not much to say about that, I wouldn’t use them, but for those who do, pretty cool.

    I have a similar opinion with the panes, personally i think if you want panes, just use a tiling window manager, or tmux or something, but i also dont really have a problem with this (tmux can be annoying).

    If I’ve missed anything let me know, because I really dont get it.

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      It’s incredibly fast, has the features you would want like tabs/splits, maintains comprehensive compatibility, and is written cleanly in Zig. What’s not to like?

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        I’ve never seen a slow terminal emulator. Most terminals have tabs and splits. Never experienced compatibility issues. Don’t care about Zig at all.

        Are these all the reasons? Another toy software written out of boredom.

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          Most terminal emulators are in fact slow and they can be a huge bottleneck if you run complex TUIs or workloads that print a lot of output.

          Ever written a program that was extremely slow only for it to run instantly after removing your debug print statements? That’s because your terminal is slow.

          Fast terminal emulators already exist, but they notably refused to add tabs/splits and overall tended to be quite janky. Ghostty merging these features may not be the most groundbreaking innovation, but a high quality piece of software that can drop-in replace something you use daily with some cool improvements is something to be excited about to me. :-)

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            Thanks, this clears things up. I didn’t know what exactly was making print IO slow.

            I don’t use any complex TUIs. Pretty much everything is CLI or GUI. Which TUIs did you have in mind that were slow?

            I’d like to test this soon. I’ll look for a modern TUI framework.