• grue@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    49
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Okay, enough is enough. The Internet Archive is both essential infrastructure and irreplaceable historical record; it cannot be allowed to fall. Rather than just hoping the Archive can defend itself, I say It’s time to hunt down and counterattack the scum perpetrating this!

    • dovahking@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      1 year ago

      Where are the anonymous group and 4chan autists? They should attack these assholes. Attacking internet archive is like kicking a kitten. Everyone will hate you for it.

    • psycotica0@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      ·
      1 year ago

      Knowing the folks at IA I’m sure they would love a backup. They would love a community. I’m sure they don’t want to be the only ones doing this. But dang, they’ve got like 99 Petabytes of data. I don’t know about you, but my NAS doesn’t have that laying around…

      • el_abuelo@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        I wonder if someone can come up with some kind of distributed storage that isn’t insanely slow. Kinda like a CDN but on personal devices. I’m thinking like SETI@HOME did with distributed compute.

        Edit: this is kinda like torrents but where the contents are changing frequently.

        • psycotica0@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          You should look up IPFS! It’s trying to be kinda like that.

          It’ll always be slower than a CDN, though, partly because CDNs pay big money to be that fast, but also anything p2p is always going to have some overhead while the swarm tries to find something. It’s just a more complicated problem that necessarily has more layers.

          But that doesn’t mean it’s not possible for it to be “fast enough”

      • notfromhere@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        That is an insane amount of storage. How much does it grow every year and is it stable growth or accelerating?

  • zlatiah@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    1 year ago

    This again??

    This time once archive.org is back online again… is it possible to get torrents of some of their popular data storage? For example I wouldn’t imagine their catalog of books with expired copyright to be very big. Would love a community way to keep the data alive if something even worse happens in the future (and their track record isn’t looking good now)

    • njordomir@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yep, that seems like the ideal decentralized solution. If all the info can be distributed via torrent, anyone with spare disk space can help back up the data and anyone with spare bandwidth can help serve it.

      • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldBanned
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        There’s an issue with torrents, only the most popular ones get replicated and the process is manual\social.

        Something like Freenet is needed, which automatically “spreads” data over machines contributing storage, but Freenet is an unreliable storage, basically like a cache where older and unwanted stuff gets erased.

        So it should be something like Freenet, but possibly with some “clusters” or “communities” with a central (cryptography-enabled) authority of each being able to determine the state of some collection of data as a whole, and pick priorities. My layman’s understanding is that this would be similar to something between Freenet and Ceph, LOL. More like a cluster filesystem spread over many nodes, not like cache.

        • njordomir@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          You have more knowledge on this than I did. I enjoyed reading about Freenet and Ceph. I have dealt with cloud stuff, but not as much on a technical-underpinnings level. My first freenet impression from reading some articles gives me 90s internet vibes based on the common use cases they listed.

          I remember ceph because I ended up building it from the AUR once on my weak little personal laptop because it got dropped from some repository or whatever but was still flagged to stay installed. I could have saved myself an hours long build if I had read the release notes.

          • rottingleaf@lemmy.worldBanned
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            My first freenet impression from reading some articles gives me 90s internet vibes based on the common use cases they listed.

            That’s correct, I meant the way it works.