There’s still one protest possible.
LEAVE REDDIT!!! GET THE FUCK OFF OF IT! LET IT DIE. MAKE IT DIE!
Same with twitter.
And all things Meta.
Twitter and Reddit went so much to shit and lowered the bar so much that Meta actually became almost not bad in my eyes, almost.
There’s a guy in the world of pro wrestling named Jim Cornette that said a quote this reminds me of.
Cornette is known for holding grudges, and being hateful. He keeps a shitlist of people he hates.
Well in the 1980s he was working for a wrestling company, and hated one of his coworkers for a year. Then a new guy came in and was so much worse.
Then one day he says to the first guy “You know, you used to be at the top of my shit list, but with all these new fuckheads coming in, you managed to move down a few spots simply by not doing anything!”
They’re doing a Bradbury, in a way, kind of like Tumblr and Steam. Everyone else is shooting themselves in the foot.
The problem is that FB is the “core forum” for tons of niche hobbies. Irts the only reason I still have a account. They successfully killed off the old php forums.
Yep, agreed. The biggest problem there is that Meta is generally not making life worse for its users than they’re used to. Facebook and Instagram are giving you almost the same shitty experience you got a decade ago.
at least they are developing affordable vr
Yeah they’re subsidizing the price to get between you and reality.
Affordable purely by the money you pay upfront. They earn more by the ridiculous amount of tracking they do, and they’re also forcing you to stay within their services.
As with so many other things, you’re paying with more than just money.
they’re also pushing the technology and pressuring other manufacturers to adopt and be competitive
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I left Reddit 6 months ago when I was permabanned for asking a question about what is forbidden. They can kiss my ass. And I hope they go broke.
Like what the hell are they even protesting about now? What is left to protest about? And why? Just go.
The hold outs for these sites are so fucking dumb. They act like social media is somehow an important part of their existence when just 10, 20 years ago it was an emerging technology. These early iterations of social media are toxic as fuck. YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, etc. They don’t deserve your patronage and are taking your goodwill and turning it into social decay.
10-20 years and you people can’t give it up for something better. There is no argument. You don’t owe them loyalty. They aren’t innovating. They have contributed to the rise of authoritarianism.
Yeesh.
No, because then they’ll all flood here. Then I’ll have to consult with 9,006 different rules between each sub, while subsequently making sure I’m bending to each power-mods weird and unwritten agenda.
No I’m good with reddit. I encourage reddit. And I encourage all the weirdos to use reddit!
Nope.
If you encourage it, it will continue to fester and rot, and the entire internet will lower their expectations.
We need to destroy these companies. We need to smash them to pieces, and hey guess what - it’s going to hurt a bit! We need to be prepared to stand up against evil, corrupt, racist, bigoted robber barons. We need to make some sacrifices to fix the internet.
Burn the fuckers to the ground, and let spez rot in a hole.
I think you have misconstrued what I’m saying here. I hope reddit exists to collect the weirdos, and be a breeding ground for the gross shit it is, and keep it away from here. We don’t need to inherit the 2024 users of reddit, no one wants them. Let them echo in their bot chambers until they literally spin into the ground. Keep Lemmy normal.
I get what you’re saying, but it never works like that.
You said it yourself: “I hope reddit exists to…be a breeding ground…” And it will. The worst of humanity will collect and fester and grow in numbers. And what’s going to happen then? Some will spill over to here, and other ‘safe’ communities.
There’s no way we can thrive and simultaneously isolate ourselves from assholery; and by encouraging it to thrive elsewhere, we’re only expanding its power and reach; and at the same time, enriching and empowering asshole billionaires like spez, Zuck, Musk, etc.
No, we need to fight them. We need to wade hip-deep in the shit to shovel it down the drain, rather than hoping it’ll just go away on its own.
Look at it another way: If you have a garden, what happens if you designate one corner as “the weed corner?” It grows, spreads, and takes over the rest of the garden.
We can fight them, but ultimately these companies have the control. They can enrich and empower, and there’s probably not a lot we can ultimately do about it. When the chips fall, I’d rather they just stay on a sub and endlessly echo chamber themselves into oblivion. Some will come here, but it seems like most will stay there until something ultra stupid forces them here. And I mean at this point, even ultra stupid hasn’t, so yeah. If they have to collect somewhere, I’d personally rather it be there than here. I think that’s the main point I’m making.
The only way to win the reddit game is to not play.
How about a nice game of Chess?
Launches entire US nuclear arsenal against Russia
Can we launch it against Spez?
Very good Joshua
It’s sad how many docile idiots remained on Reddit and Twitter after last year.
People still use AOL internet. I expect Reddit and twitter to die sometime in the 2050s.
I missed the part where Aol. was promoting toxicity and hate while attempting a short-term grift on its users like Reddit and X have.
That fact that Aol. is still alive is amazing by itself. It’s just another sleazy, beleaguered company that used to be meaningful. You leave because other companies have better products, not because they offend your sense of morality.
(Or maybe they do.)
I think you underestimate how ignorant people can be. The reason Aol still exists is because they are grifters too. My Aol example was to show that people are docile idiots and won’t change their habits. Aol is grifting just as much as reddit does. They’re just grifting different groups in different ways.
That’s why i think reddit and twitter will continue on for a long time. Maybe not as powerhouses but they won’t implode or go away any time soon.
Not just AOL Internet, but also the email service. Same for Hotmail. I used to work at iHeart, and the number of those email services (from prize winners) was not insignificant.
Hotmail was owned by Microsoft when I signed up in the late 90s. It’s no surprise it’s still around. It hasn’t been my primary email for a long time, but I still use it as my MS account. So really it’s just my Minecraft account.
There are a lot of subreddits for which there is no real replacement. Sometimes the strength in a community is the people. Doesn’t matter if reddit sucks if the people are there.
A lot of it is just propaganda bots at this point.
Those still on are a bunch of bootlickers IMO
I don’t know, I feel during that exodus we got the best of the best. I miss some of the niche communities, But there’s so many fewer assholes over here.
so many leaders are forgetting what the point of protests is. yes, protests are annoying if you’re a leader. but they’re better than the alternative. that’s the whole point.
Or just agree with what your betters want you to think, obviously. </s>
Stop using Reddit, problem solved
In favor of what is the problem. In Lemmy half the instances have defederated from half the others.
People use Reddit because there’s only one Reddit. Coming to such a center is human nature, while Fediverse architecture is someone’s strategy. Changing your strategy is simpler than changing human nature.
If we drop the tech religion part of the subject, NOSTR moderated communities are a very good thing as a global, not per-instance, Reddit alternative. You can clearly see that its core idea is chosen by people who are more confident with human psychology than with tech. And it’s good for that very reason. It’s an ugly real solution.
Except all clients suck balls and there’s nothing to see there yet.
True, the fediverse is poor. But Reddit is the bottom of the barrel in its current state.
Best to waste time watching paint dry to be honest
What? and lose THE MOST EFFECTIVE PROTEST PLATFORM EVER MADE? I couldn’t imagine what else we would use to teach corporations and politicians a harsh lesson (insert giant eye rolling emoji)
I lieu of that, I’d say the mods should just go limp. Stop moderating content and let posters run wild. The company needs to realize just how much their business model depends on all that unpaid labor.
I think they realize it but know these mods are addicted to the fake power so they won’t go anywhere no matter what
I’m not…
Not using or not dropping?
I’m on lemmy, with you….
… But maybe you are cheating on Lemmy with that old bitch
More hilarity: as of about a week ago, it appears the reddit algorithm has also started boosting posts with negative karma on their horrible mobile app. Guessing it’s a move towards ‘negative engagement’. I have not seen it myself (I don’t use the reddit app) but I see users complaining about it.
I have to imagine that when some c-level suit saw that term in his moth-eaten copy of “Social Media for Dummies,” I don’t think it was intended to be taken quite so flagrantly visibly literally…
So that’s what happened?! I rarely come here, but last weekend was so bad that I started updating my subscribed communities here.
I thought I interacted with too many downvoted posts, and screwed up what reddit thought were my main interests. Guess I was expecting too much from reddit…
At reddit, line must go up. So user experience must go down.
This isn’t limited to the Reddit app. You can see it on the desktop and mobile website too.
fuck u/spez
Reddit is one of the most infiltrated and astroturfed site. I have absolutely no confidence that the leadership are interested in addressing that. When there were suspicions it was anti-US actors, they had to take action because the government would get involved. But we all know that such pressure doesn’t exist for other astroturfing actors, state and private.
I’m not surprised. I’m on this site because I’m sick of being banned on reddit for thinking wrong.
What’s really fascinating is how many of the advice communities for certain sexual practices are run by bona fide rapists.
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Same. Will never go back. Even the military subs are toxic now.
Imagine that.
It’s the same here
If it’s like that on lemmy.ca then why not go to a different Lemmy host or make your own. Both things that are not an option for Reddit
Somewhat, but the way federated instances are set up, it’s not nearly as bad or easily abused. Not as if making a new Reddit account was that much of a roadblock, either. They accept 10minutemail addresses.
And this is where you went? This is literally Reddit’s bias taken to the level of hyperbole. The extremism groupthink here is the primary reason it hasn’t and likely will never go mainstream.
What? Where have you been that you have this kind of opinion? It’s basically the same as reddit: You do have your bubbles, you do have open minded communities, you also have closed minded communities. Your experience is therefore dependend on where you go.
For example: Joining a vegan server to say “meat is great” will lead to a shitshow. But that’s not supprising and it’s not because Lemmy per se harbors militant people.
Uhm, the worldnews subreddit is literally the most astroturfed online community I have ever seen in my entire life. Lemmy isn’t great because it still has Redditors on it, but it’s still nowhere near as bad as Reddit.
You are at -20 and I can still read you just fine. On reddit they would have banned you, got you fired from your job and stolen your cat.
At this point I’m more or less done with Reddit. My latest ban was because I posted a screenshot of an ad with a wacky old person comment to r/oldpeoplefacebook. I carefully smudged out the person’s name and profile pic…and got a three-day site-wide ban for sharing personal information. I protested, they said, nope, you shared personal information. All I can figure is they decided the advertiser’s name is personal info, which would make it even more bizarre because I’d say about half the posts have group or advertiser names unedited.
People they let mod, can end up getting this really bizarre God complex not dissimilar to what you see in university settings, their word goes, questioning their word is a sin and they’ll just double down.
I protested, they said, nope
Protesting on a site that’s fully automated their administration just means getting told “fuck you” twice.
There’s no real bureaucracy under the hood. It’s just “friend computer says you’re guilty” followed by “friend computer says you’re still guilty plus you had the gall to doubt friend computer’s immaculate wisdom”.
I’ve had almost all my posts on Reddit go up in smoke for one pedantic reason or another. I haven’t posted here much out of that fear but I think it’s much better here.
Indeed, fuck reddit and their Russian shills. I was permanently banned for commenting about the Russians receiving a dose of their own medicine and I did not use a single swear word.
My ban was for quoting someone who said a slur so they couldn’t edit their comment after I reported it, and I said as much in my report.
It’s the moderators, they are dumb as fuck because there’s no consequence because they’re all volunteers. The only thing stupider than the volunteer mods who don’t demand pay, are the people who get hung up on what moderators are doing or not. We should have all stopped taking reddit so seriously a long, long time ago. Protests? Jesus christ, a reddit protest does as much real-world good as a kindergarten protest by the children mad that they can’t get more cookies.
It’s not as bad here but I already ran into having a comment of mine deleted from a sub because I suggested that Peter Molyneux is a scam artist, no longer a developer, if he ever couod be considered one. I didn’t think that was such an outlandish position that it warranted deletion. But it was removed with an exceptionally vague reason and they wouldn’t responded to me asking for an explanation. So how am I supposed to even know when my opinion will offend a tender soul there? My guess is peter Molyneux himself was the mod. Lol
FUCK SPEZ
The other option is for all the mods to quit. AI can probably do a lot of basic tasks, but without mods they wouldn’t have a site pretty quickly.
What would these busybodies do with their free time then and how would they obtain a sense of self worth ? They can’t quit, deleting other people from the internet is their whole life.
Quite a few of the mods are severing alternative interests. The partisan subs are run by literal party staffers and think tanks. Lots of the big brand subs are run by marketing agencies. Reddit’s financial model is to sell these spaces. You don’t just have some random mega-fan running /r/Marvel. That’s a Disney staffer.
None of these guys are going anywhere.
Nobody is going to quit, all mod roles can be replaced in minutes with people excited to do it. If they have to, they can pay them even and make them official employees and never have to worry about protests again.
Also, who cares, the site has a clock over it, in a few years most users will be bots and children and all content will be farmed slop akin to youtube.
Furthermore, if anyone thinks that “protests” on reddit accomplish ANYTHING that person is a literal child, or someone else who shouldn’t be trusted to operate heavy machinery.
Whatever high ideals we had for reddit a decade ago are long-since dead and buried and that’s fine, instead of whinging about what we lost we should be trying to figure out what to build next to maintain some semblance of an internet in an age of AI slop.
“While we are making this change to ensure users’ expectations regarding a community’s access do not suddenly change, protest is allowed on Reddit,” writes Nestler. “We want to hear from you when you think Reddit is making decisions that are not in your communities’ best interests. But if a protest crosses the line into harming redditors and Reddit, we’ll step in.”
Yall have very clearly demonstrated that you do not care about the communities best interest, and you have no interest in hearing what we think. Fuck Spez and good riddance to reddit
Calling making a subreddit private “harming redditors and Reddit” is insane
Moderators will now have to submit a request if they want to switch their subreddit from public to private.
But do they have to submit a request if they tell the audience “fuck it, this is now a sub about X, we’ll remove everything that’s not about X”?
…In fact, fuck any particular topic - if the mods approve of it, every subreddit can actually be about whatever people think it should be about, now that we think about it. If the mods don’t do it, will the admins do it? The answer is: Highly unlikely
/r/trees will only accept tree related posts
In the next protest mods should allow content like porn as another way of protest.
They address this. “The policy applies to adjusting all community types, meaning moderators will have to request to make a switch from safe for work to not safe for work, too.”
