Wrong, this is also exactly what people selling LLMs to people who can’t code would say.

I can see the statement in the same way word processing displaced secretaries.

There used to be two tiers in business. Those who wrote ideas/solutions and those who typed out those ideas into documents to be photocopied and faxed. Now the people who work on problems type their own words and email/slack/teams the information.

In the same way there are programmers who design and solve the problems, and then the coders who take those outlines and make it actually compile.

LLM will disrupt the programmers leaving the problem solvers.

There are still secretaries today. But there aren’t vast secretary pools in every business like 50 years ago.

I don’t know if you noticed but most of the people making decisions in the industry aren’t programmers, they’re MBAs.

The one thing that LLMs have done for me is to make summarizing and correlating data in documents really easy. Take 20 docs of notes about a project and have it summarize where they are at so I can get up to speed quickly. Works surprisingly well. I haven’t had luck with code requests.

That’s not what was said. He specifically said coding.

I’m pretty sure I could write a bot right now that just regurgitates pop science bullshit and how it relates to Line Go Up business philosophy.

Edit: did it, thanks ChatJippity

def main():
    # Check if the correct number of arguments are provided
    if len(sys.argv) != 2:
        print("Usage: python script.py <PopScienceBS>")
        sys.exit(1)
    # Get the input from the command line
    PopScienceBS = sys.argv[1]
    # Assign the input variable to the output variable
    LineGoUp = PopScienceBS
    # Print the output
    print(f"Line Go Up if we do: {LineGoUp}")
if __name__ == "__main__":
    main()

I’ve worked with a few PMs over my 12 year career that think devs are really only there to code like trained monkeys.

I dread meetings and I can’t wait for AIs to replace those managers. Or perhaps we’ll have even more meetings because the management wants to know why we’re so late despite the AI happily churning out meaningless codes that look so awesome like all that CSI VB GUI crap.

there isn’t a single serious project written exclusively or mostly by an LLM? There isn’t a single library or remotely original application

IMHO “original” here is the key. Finding yet another clone of a Web framework ported from one language to another in order to push online a basic CMS slightly faster, I can imagine this. In fact I even bet that LLM, because they manipulate words in languages and that code can be safely (even thought not cheaply) tested within containers, could be an interesting solution for that.

… but that is NOT really creating value for anyone, unless that person is technically very savvy and thus able to leverage why a framework in a language over another creates new opportunities (say safety, performances, etc). So… for somebody who is not that savvy, “just” relying on the numerous existing already existing open-source providing exactly the value they expect, there is no incentive to re-invent.

For anything that is genuinely original, i.e something that is not a port to another architecture, a translation to another language, a slight optimization, but rather something that need just a bit of reasoning and evaluating against the value created, I’m very skeptical, even less so while pouring less resources EVEN with a radical drop in costs.

Well if it works, means that job wasn’t that important, and the people doing that job should improve themselves to stay relevant.

Edit: wow what a bunch of hypersensitive babies. I swear, y’all just allergic to learning or something. I just said people need to improve themselves to stay relevant, and people freak out and send me death threats. What a joke.

Yeah writing the code isn’t really the hard part. It’s knowing what code to write and how to structure it to work with your existing code or potential future code. Knowing where things might break so you can add the correct tests or alerts. Giving time estimates on how long it will take to build the parts of the system and building in phases to meet your teams needs.

Generative AI is much better at art than coding.

Mostly because humans invented this convenient thing called abstract art - and since then tolerates pretty much everything that looks “strange” as art. Must have been a deep learning advocate with a time machine who came up with abstract art.

So instead of spending 1 day writing good code, we’ll be spending a week debugging shitty code. Great.