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    Additionally, Musk announced a full self driving robot driver to make the robotaxis look more authentic

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    I saw a cyber truck in person for the first time this week. One thing I can say with certainty is that they are definitely NOT a truck company.

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    Great…the company known for running cars into EMS vehicles at 80mph is focusing on AI. This will turn out fine.

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    Tesla has always been an AI company. They’ve had tons of machine learning going on in their cars basically as long as they’ve existed. What exactly is changing? Are they going to start trying to use generative models like GPTs in their cars?

    Edit: lol people really don’t like that someone mentally categorizes stuff differently than they do. Sorry I’ve offended you all so deeply with my differing definition of “AI company”

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      “We are a car company we sell cars. We have machine learning for self driving”

      to

      “We are an AI company”.

      It hasn’t always been an AI company. They are an automotive company suddenly shifting gears

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        I guess if you think AI and car are mutually exclusive. I would have described Tesla as an AI car company.

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          What AI products, except their broken self driving feature, does tesla sell?

          Is every other manufacturer of cars with any self driving type functionality now an “AI” company to you?

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            Ugh you guys can be so deliberately obtuse. Yes, if a company makes revenue from an AI offering, and spends a significant amount of their money developing that AI offering then yes, it can be considered an AI company. Just because the feature is stupid or dangerous doesn’t invalidate that accounting.

            Enjoy a little nuance from time to time.

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              What? you entirely missed the point. you are adding nuance where none is required.

              Tesla is a car company. Just because musk says “we are AI now” doesn’t just magically make it so.

              I could form a company that makes shoes. Can I suddenly announce I am an AI company?

              Sure, maybe I use AI in my production, and maybe even develop my own models.

              But its still a shoe company.

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                Wow, if only something can be two things at once! But no, that’s impossible!

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                  Fantastic reply. 10/10. Really adds to the discussion.

                  I hope the rest of your day is as lovely as your personality

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            Tesla has always invested heavily in their software. Just because it has always been shitty doesn’t diminish that it was an outsized part of their business model, especially compared to other car companies

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              always invested heavily in their software

              So wait, are you now saying they are a technology company? Can you please try and keep your mental gymnastics consistent?

              Are you implying all car manufacturers are now AI or Technology companies? And are no longer automotive manufacturers?

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                Why must tech company and car company be mutually exclusive? Certainly the amount of technology (including ML) present in cars has increased exponentially in the last decade.

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      To reply to your edit.

      You can mentally categorise whatever you like into whatever you want. It doesn’t mean anyone else will agree with you, or even understand what you’re saying. You have the right to express your categorisation. But don’t whinge and whine when no one else agrees with it.

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        Who’s whinging and whining? I’m just explaining my reasoning. I actually am fascinated by the discussion that’s developed here. I’m amazed at how upset people are getting about this. I made the above comment as a genuine question about what exactly is meant to change about Tesla following this statement from Elon. Like what exactly it means that he’s acknowledged his company is heavily invested in AI development. I never would have guessed the semantics would be so controversial as to give me maybe my most heavily downvoted comment ever.

        People are saying I’m using mental gymnastics, logical fallacies, bringing up completely irrelevant examples including Amber Heard and 1984 for some reason (???). People just love to find any reason to get outraged I guess.

        Maybe people interpret any comment in a thread about Tesla as supportive if it doesn’t begin with a virtue signalling “Fuck Elon” (which TBF, I agree with. Fuck that guy. But I don’t really think it needed to be said for my comment)

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          No one is “upset” by your comments. If anything, it’s been a wonderfully pointless discussion over semantics, and how one person saying one thing can mean something entirely different to everyone else. And then watching you repeatedly double down is crazy.

          edit - i brought the amber heard example up to demonstrate how one person saying one thing, and believing they can use two different words synonymously doesn’t make it synonymous.

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      By this logic, any car company with any advanced driving aids are “AI” companies, and therefore the likes of VW, Toyota, Honda, Mercedes, BMW, Hyundai, Jaguar, etc aren’t actually car companies.

      Come off it. They’re car companies. It’s just that one of their car’s features is some function that relies on machine learning.

      You may as well call Ford a cup holder company by this logic - after all, they’ve had cup holders for so long now!

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        aren’t actually car companies.

        You’re making the same assumption many others in this thread do that “AI company” and “car company” are non-overlapping circles on a Venn diagram. In my view this is as ludicrous as saying that “Apple is a phone company, not a software company”