- Proton, known for its secure email and productivity services, is transitioning to a nonprofit foundation model, ensuring it remains mission-focused without reliance on external subsidies.
- The Proton Foundation, now the primary shareholder, is located in Switzerland, which mandates that foundations act according to their established purpose, bolstering Proton’s commitment to privacy.
- Proton has expanded its offerings to include cloud storage, password management, calendars, and VPN services, all designed with end-to-end encryption and hosted in Switzerland, enhancing its privacy-first approach.
We believe that if we want to bring about large-scale change, Proton can’t be billionaire-subsidized (like Signal), Google-subsidized (like Mozilla), government-subsidized (like Tor), donation-subsidized (like Wikipedia), or even speculation-subsidized (like the plethora of crypto “foundations”)," Proton CEO Andy Yen wrote in a blog post announcing the transition. “Instead, Proton must have a profitable and healthy business at its core.”
Ok. I will now seriously consider moving over to proton. I can’t trust a for-profit buisness to stay true to its mission. However, Open-AI has shown that I can’t blindly trust a non-profit to do so as well, but its ‘towards’ being able to trust.
That’s kind of what I’m thinking too.
Legitimately, the degree to which proton advertises, the sheer amount of blog spam and such, made me very, very resistant to it. I really don’t care how private it all is or how well it works, I have spent enough time on the internet and engaged with enough small tech company services to recognize a fierce push for growth, and experience has taught me to avoid a for-profit company that sells to you that hard. One day the growth will stop, and the cannibalizing begins.
But a move to a non-profit model is, at least theoretically, a move in the right direction. I’m more willing to engage.
I still don’t trust that they won’t change their mind down the road, but it’s a start.
And the point about OpenAI is moot because being non-profit doesn’t make the actual purpose of the company any less shitty. Especially when Microsoft was feeding it money for the purpose of harvesting what they would create. They still had shitty motives and created a tool that is very ethically “questionable” at best, and that was true from the very beginning.The fact their ethics team was gutted the moment they tried to exercise their purpose tells you everything.
The non-profit company created a tool that will be used primarily by for-profit companies and hurt individuals. The moniker barely applies.
OpemAi had a for profit division though
As does Proton?
Well, I had to subscribe to Proton now. 🥹
I’ve not looked in a bit. Has their integration with Apple mail on MacOS improved? I remember it (or some other part of their service) requiring a separate app to try and get things working.
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Wait, they give Europol access if and only if a swiss judge order it. They protect your privacy but neither you or them are above the law.
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Complete and unrestricted access, following a court order, to the data they have access to, this does not include the contents of your emails or the files in your drive, which are e2ee.
Last time I read about something like that was them giving away an email address iirc.
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Only to the data they have access to, which isn’t much as pretty much everything is E2EE and logging is minimal or in many cases non-existent.
And “I won’t support any company that complies with the law” is certainly a take.
